I took the Salk vaccine in the early 1960s. They lined the children all up and we were given a sugar cube. I never heard of any reactions at the time, but I was probably 7 years old. I also remember WWII bombers, maybe B24s, dumping DDT laced chunks of corn trying to push back the invading fire ants that were offloaded in Mobile from S. America. I also remember riding bikes with my brothers and neighbor children behind the mosquito fogger trucks right up in the fog. The fog was an oil based DDT. Almost all of us have lived into our 60s with no noticeable reactions from the DDT. Analysis from sediments in Yazoo river sediments downstream in the 1990s from the Mississippi delta farming areas showed that the remaining DDT was bound to the sediments and was not bio-available.
Base on personal experience, DDT is not the boogie man that it had been made out to be.
I wouldn't even eat any of those things even sucrose, let alone inject them directly in my body and thereby over riding and by passing my finely tuned physical and knowledge based defences
I believe DDT is thought to have half life of 10 to 20 years so that would fit. Really glad that you suffered no ill effects, but that doesn't mean that others weren't affected. Maybe exposure during a course of antibiotics or frequent antibiotic use could make people more vulnerable?
I've read that the Mississippi delta in the present time is wash off for many giant farms using GMO's and is full of Round up residues and it's Bayer successor - is surrounded by cancer hot spots?
Yazoo river- sounds so fantastic- we live near the Wandle-a tributary of the Thames, sounds much more prosaic.
I do not know about cancer hot spots but farm workers that mix both pesticides and herbicides have high exposure with little PPE. If PPE were (and it may be) available many will not put it on because of the heat and humidity in MS.
The last time I drove north on US 61 from Vicksburg to Greenville there was a lot of corn with DEKALB signs next to the field. DEKALB corn seeds are usually GMO. DEKALB was a Monsanto brand now Bayer. I believe the GMO seeds were designed for corn ethanol production.
I have little good to say about Monsanto. They developed roundup resistant weeds that are difficult to get rid of. I believe they knew resistant weed would be an adverse reaction of their meddling.
The Yazoo is mostly drainage surrounded by farm land. I would not use the water from it for anything except irrigation and dilution it empties into the Mississippi River at Vicksburg. That along with the midwest corn production results in low to no oxygen at the mouth of the MS river yearly. This is from the overuse of nitrogen to produce corn to make ethanol so your can burn to in you auto.
I never though it was a good idea to use great farm land to produce a crop one cannot eat.
Thank you this is so interesting. I understand ethanol production (totally agree with you we need food from the land not fuel) and Monsanto is be an ecological disaster. I am only getting my informations second hand from Zach Bush, I don't know how you feel about what he is saying, so it's great to get word on the ground? He says the MS delta is very polluted and people don't even bathe in it. He tracks increasing incidence of cancer, Parkinsons and Alzheimers in the communities living along the river and drainage areas taking off in the 1990's. He has apparently repeatedly tried to bring law suits against chemical companies for damage to human health- but the FDA says things like 'we're not allowed by law to consider the future generational impact of these chemicals when making our assessments'! which is mad and shows the lobbying power of giant companies.
I know nothing of Rachel Carson except that she wrote about birds, and not impact on humans. It did bring to world attention damage to the environment that no one had bothered about before- whatever the result of her book on farmers. However it doesn't seem to have much lasting effect-we now use 4/5 billion tonnes of glyphosate a year!
Yes I think Monsanto knew they would get round up resistant weeds, cos it means now some crops are being sprayed with 3 or 4 other chemicals now as well. Yes I can understand PPE being impossible to wear.
The microbiome in the soil is destroyed, the plants don't get enough nutrients, the people eating the plants don't get enough nutrients, the people become sick and need loads of pharmaceuticals....etc etc
We have a small organic regenerative farm locally for veg and just started fruit growing- and I've noticed my healthy has improved a lot
I don't see how we can go on with this kind of chemical damage in rivers and the sea for much longer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco this very interesting from Zach Bush on using chemical fertilisers that need more and more chemicals ( very new age at the end)
"based on available data"... You read that right, it hasn't been studied! Another one that emerged the last two years is "there's no evidence for ..." That used to mean it has been studied and there's no evidence for it, but now means it hasn't been studied.
someone on Alec Zeck was asking about polio (I've added a graph above)and about the Cutter incident where in 1955 where some of the contacts of vaccinees of the Salk vaccine (which had a record breaking 2 hour approval process!) became paralysed and 5 died when a supposed 'live' version of the polio virus was used.
Some children didn't get sick, but their mothers became very ill and so did their neighbours. Undoubtedly the mothers were the ones crazily spraying their homes with DDT when they heard a live virus was on the loose.
The graph is from Jim West who someone has mentioned before. His book is DDT/Polio Toxicology vs Virology - I've just ordered it- it sounds right up my street!
I took the Salk vaccine in the early 1960s. They lined the children all up and we were given a sugar cube. I never heard of any reactions at the time, but I was probably 7 years old. I also remember WWII bombers, maybe B24s, dumping DDT laced chunks of corn trying to push back the invading fire ants that were offloaded in Mobile from S. America. I also remember riding bikes with my brothers and neighbor children behind the mosquito fogger trucks right up in the fog. The fog was an oil based DDT. Almost all of us have lived into our 60s with no noticeable reactions from the DDT. Analysis from sediments in Yazoo river sediments downstream in the 1990s from the Mississippi delta farming areas showed that the remaining DDT was bound to the sediments and was not bio-available.
Base on personal experience, DDT is not the boogie man that it had been made out to be.
wow, thank you. Lead arsenate and calcium arsenate seem to be implicated too.
I wouldn't even eat any of those things even sucrose, let alone inject them directly in my body and thereby over riding and by passing my finely tuned physical and knowledge based defences
I believe DDT is thought to have half life of 10 to 20 years so that would fit. Really glad that you suffered no ill effects, but that doesn't mean that others weren't affected. Maybe exposure during a course of antibiotics or frequent antibiotic use could make people more vulnerable?
I've read that the Mississippi delta in the present time is wash off for many giant farms using GMO's and is full of Round up residues and it's Bayer successor - is surrounded by cancer hot spots?
Yazoo river- sounds so fantastic- we live near the Wandle-a tributary of the Thames, sounds much more prosaic.
Jo
I do not know about cancer hot spots but farm workers that mix both pesticides and herbicides have high exposure with little PPE. If PPE were (and it may be) available many will not put it on because of the heat and humidity in MS.
The last time I drove north on US 61 from Vicksburg to Greenville there was a lot of corn with DEKALB signs next to the field. DEKALB corn seeds are usually GMO. DEKALB was a Monsanto brand now Bayer. I believe the GMO seeds were designed for corn ethanol production.
I have little good to say about Monsanto. They developed roundup resistant weeds that are difficult to get rid of. I believe they knew resistant weed would be an adverse reaction of their meddling.
The Yazoo is mostly drainage surrounded by farm land. I would not use the water from it for anything except irrigation and dilution it empties into the Mississippi River at Vicksburg. That along with the midwest corn production results in low to no oxygen at the mouth of the MS river yearly. This is from the overuse of nitrogen to produce corn to make ethanol so your can burn to in you auto.
I never though it was a good idea to use great farm land to produce a crop one cannot eat.
FYI: I am not a fan of Rachel Carson either.
Thank you this is so interesting. I understand ethanol production (totally agree with you we need food from the land not fuel) and Monsanto is be an ecological disaster. I am only getting my informations second hand from Zach Bush, I don't know how you feel about what he is saying, so it's great to get word on the ground? He says the MS delta is very polluted and people don't even bathe in it. He tracks increasing incidence of cancer, Parkinsons and Alzheimers in the communities living along the river and drainage areas taking off in the 1990's. He has apparently repeatedly tried to bring law suits against chemical companies for damage to human health- but the FDA says things like 'we're not allowed by law to consider the future generational impact of these chemicals when making our assessments'! which is mad and shows the lobbying power of giant companies.
I know nothing of Rachel Carson except that she wrote about birds, and not impact on humans. It did bring to world attention damage to the environment that no one had bothered about before- whatever the result of her book on farmers. However it doesn't seem to have much lasting effect-we now use 4/5 billion tonnes of glyphosate a year!
Yes I think Monsanto knew they would get round up resistant weeds, cos it means now some crops are being sprayed with 3 or 4 other chemicals now as well. Yes I can understand PPE being impossible to wear.
The microbiome in the soil is destroyed, the plants don't get enough nutrients, the people eating the plants don't get enough nutrients, the people become sick and need loads of pharmaceuticals....etc etc
We have a small organic regenerative farm locally for veg and just started fruit growing- and I've noticed my healthy has improved a lot
I don't see how we can go on with this kind of chemical damage in rivers and the sea for much longer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco this very interesting from Zach Bush on using chemical fertilisers that need more and more chemicals ( very new age at the end)
Thanks
Jo
It was probably the batches, as is the case with the "covid" lethal injections.
Poisons from all sources must add up above the body's threshold to the point that the lymphatic system cannot perform full detox anymore.
"based on available data"... You read that right, it hasn't been studied! Another one that emerged the last two years is "there's no evidence for ..." That used to mean it has been studied and there's no evidence for it, but now means it hasn't been studied.
someone on Alec Zeck was asking about polio (I've added a graph above)and about the Cutter incident where in 1955 where some of the contacts of vaccinees of the Salk vaccine (which had a record breaking 2 hour approval process!) became paralysed and 5 died when a supposed 'live' version of the polio virus was used.
Some children didn't get sick, but their mothers became very ill and so did their neighbours. Undoubtedly the mothers were the ones crazily spraying their homes with DDT when they heard a live virus was on the loose.
The graph is from Jim West who someone has mentioned before. His book is DDT/Polio Toxicology vs Virology - I've just ordered it- it sounds right up my street!
Wow, I didn't know that about the polio vaccine. Same stuff repeated.
All this has happened before. All this will happen again!
yes, yes, yes!
I guess, it was Schwab, who declared it around 1981:
"First, we kill the elderly, then the stupid."
Everything's on schedule.