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Curious that the people writing these reports were carnivores themselves.

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Gavin Mounsey's avatar

Thank you for sharing this information.

On a positive side note, here are a collection of plant based recipes with roots in East Africa that I find to be very delicious and nourishing.

https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/an-ethiopian-feast

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Jo Waller's avatar

Thank you Gavin, fantastic!

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David S's avatar

Jo, I'd respectfully like to challenge your premise, again that plant based diets are best all the time for all people on the planet. At least I think that's what your position is? I just finished watching a documentary on the development of food traditions in China over the centuries. I also just read a book on evolutionary biology and how our genes can change based on environmental influences. The theory of epigenetics which has a growing body of evidence. It has been shown that foods that were not well adapted to certain areas of the world became safe and nutritious over centuries of evolutionary change to our bodies. Your recitation of the terrible history of colonial influences on the African diet are well founded. Another terrible example is that of the Native Americans in the US. Their health has declined dramatically since the introduction AND forcefully pushed "western" diet. But, as I've said before in our discussions, I don't believe there's a one size fits all diet around the planet for all peoples and all cultures. If I've misunderstood your position, please clarify. I do think we need to eat less animal products and treat animals more humanely. But I don't believe veganism is a universally necessary thing for the health and well being of humans and the planet. Just my opinion though. Thanks.

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Jo Waller's avatar

I'll stop you right there, I have never said plant based diets are the best for all people on the planet all the time. Clearly people would die in Greenland without eating animals.

All I am doing, which I've said over and over, is calling out the lies of what people say the science says.

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David S's avatar

Thanks for the clarification Jo. I've only been reading your Substack for a short time. So I've probably missed some of the nuance. Now I can read your posts on Veganism with a little more appreciation for it's positive aspects. And I agree "the science" is no longer science. Covid sure exposed that lie! Even the Cochrane Collaborative has been co-opted by Gates.

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Jo Waller's avatar

yes such a shame about Cochrane. No we have only our own wits and each other to rely on. I think that's a good thing.

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David S's avatar

Go Substack!

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