I have a definite conclusion: We're being duped, for a couple of centuries, we are dupees. Dupid. Dupadoodledupe. Dupe-plicitous. Dupalicious. Dupified. Dupraved. Dubouched. Duplimental. What would Jesus dupe? How do you dupe it? Dupe the right thing. Why dupe anything? Why don't we dupe it in the road? Don't dupe me like that.
yes I believe SARs positivity and being asymptomatic -previously known as healthy is between 40% to 80%, so correlation with Sars and being sick may only be about 1 in 5
Dec 28, 2023·edited Dec 28, 2023Liked by Jo Waller
This is perplexing. The above certainly appears to be a serious and honest attempt to explore and persuade readers of the possibility that viruses, if they exist, do not transmit diseases. We know every generation of Big Pharma wants to sell its cures. Hence, unctuous "mental wellness" screenings that begin in elementary school. Beyond that, and infrequent horrendous pragmatism of such as the Indian vaccinations cited above, cui bono? To whose benefit?
I'm further troubled by the repetitive refrain throughout global history, not just American, in which populations on nearly every continent are documented as decimated following the advent of new pathogens spread by invading or newly mixed populations.
Many of course died by sword, spear and bullet in less war-ready populations, but none were so completely defenseless against invaders. And reported decimations occurred far faster than natives would have been wiped out. It seems these instances cannot *all* be discounted.
I never - and I mean never consume anything but healthy food. No crisps. No soda. No KFC. No McDs. Never.
I eat a wide range of food - I suppose it might be a Paleo diet? Lots of nuts, veggies, fruit, fish, almost no dairy, some meat. I try to go with organic options - grow quite a bit of veg year round. If I must be in the supermarket I soak in baking soda and water to remove most of the toxins.
I exercise 5 or 6 days out of 7. In the winter it's a combination of ice hockey - skiing - weights - biking if it's a nice day.
Summer it's a lot of biking and weights and one night of summer hockey.
I semi retired in 2008 in my early 40s cuz I knew the end of the world was imminent (and here we are) so I have close to zero stress - I sleep minimum 8 hours per night and sometimes take a 20 minute nap in the afternoon.
My wife follows a similar lifestyle but she works.
Our 'terrain' is impeccable.
We sponsor two kids from the Philippines to attend school in NZ. They also have good 'terrain'. The almost never get sick. Never been to a doctor in the 10 years they've lived with us.
Then one day one of the comes home - sniffling and a slight cough. She takes a RAT test and gets a + for whatever that test is detecting (they say it's the covid virus). Then the boy gets sick the next day. Also tests +.
Then my wife - who never gets sick -- comes down with flu-like symptoms... body ache - head ache - nothing major - but she's not well enough to work for a few days (and meant to isolate) She tests +
The kids are back to normal in a couple of days.
Day 3 of my wife's illness - I wake up and can feel something coming on. Test + at noon.
I decide to take the anti viral medication Hydroxychloroquine to see what happens --- by dinner time I can feel whatever I have dissipating ... the feeling is the same as when a cold begins to break ... energy returning ... I feel just a tinge of illness on the second day... but continue with the full course of meds. By day 5 I'm on my bike for a 90 minute ride. I feel close to normal.
The anti malaria meds appear to have crushed whatever it was that made me feel ill.
Very obviously -- whatever the girl contracted -- was passed to her brother - and was passed to my wife then to me. And whatever I took smashed it.
And btw - during this period Covid was tearing through Queenstown - businesses were closed because of so many sick staff. My hockey league had teams with only 5 or 6 players able to make it - when I asked where everyone was - 'sick' 'covid'
Sam Bailey has not provided a better explanation for why something clearly was spreading throughout the community - and within our house.
So I am sticking with the 'virus' theory - call it something else if you want but there is without a doubt something being passed between people that makes them sick
It looked like a poisoning event or the result of locking elderly people into their rooms. Similar toxic events happened on other ships but were ignored because they didn't fit the narrative of how the virus was meant to be travelling
how do they know it was 'smallpox' which is just a collection of common detox symptoms?There was no test. The test uses genetic fragments and proteins never shown to come from an entity that causes disease rather than originating from the cell itself.
History, being written by the victors, would say so. I wonder if plying them with alcohol, burning their villages and injecting them with the lethal small pox vaccine had anything to do with it? https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/disease-and-colonialism
Cortés with his 500 men then headed into the Mexican interior. This region was home to the Aztec civilization, an empire of an estimated 16 million people at this time. Through a system of conquest and tribute, the Aztecs had established the great island city of Tenochtitlan in Lake Texcoco that ruled over an area of about 80,000 square miles.
Recalling the epidemic, one victim reported:
“The plague lasted for 70 days, striking everywhere in the city and killing a vast number of our people. Sores erupted on our faces, our breasts, our bellies; we were covered with agonizing sores from head to foot.”
A Franciscan monk who accompanied Cortés provided this description:
“As the Indians did not know the remedy of the disease, they died in heaps, like bedbugs. In many places it happened that everyone in a house died, and as it was impossible to bury the great number of dead, they pulled down the houses over them, so that their homes became their tombs.”
Smallpox took its toll on the Aztecs in several ways. First, it killed many of its victims outright, particularly infants and young children. Many other adults were incapacitated by the disease – because they were either sick themselves, caring for sick relatives and neighbors, or simply lost the will to resist the Spaniards as they saw disease ravage those around them. Finally, people could no longer tend to their crops, leading to widespread famine, further weakening the immune systems of survivors of the epidemic.
yes, I'm coming to the opinion that chickenpox doesn't count as a 'disease'. People happily invite it in even if babies and the frail and elderly are around. It has a few itchy bits for a few days then everyone gets better. There's no evidence any serious disease is not due to 'co-morbidites' and medications, nor that it's caused by a virus.
I think childhood pox is just a developmental phase of the homeostatic system.
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ps there are no diseases at all -I was reminded just now of this quote from Florence Nightingale 'Is it not living in a continual mistake to look upon diseases, as we do now, as separate entities, which must exist, like cats and dogs, instead of looking upon them as conditions, like a clean and dirty condition ... I have seen with my eyes and smelt with my nose smallpox growing up in first specimens, either in close rooms or in overcrowded wards, where it could not by any possibility have been ‘caught’, but must have begun.' She was in a position to know- and expresses it beautifully
Yes, it seems to be more evidence of pleomorphism. Ive seen a really good explanation of chickenpox as a detox mechanism related to growth, I believe, but very eloquently explained that made a lot of sense (mightve been from Tracy Northern - i love her stuff!), will see if I can find it.
No one has any convincing sources, because viruses don't exist - period. And the fact that control experiments aren't done should alarm EVERYONE who cares about scientific integrity and truth.
I couldn't agree more. I think that's what I find so disappointing and frustrating. It's not that people have different opinions and disagree with me, it's that they won't look at the evidence. I thought that is what the freedom and truth 'movement' was all about- evidence based scientific integrity and truth seeking.
Love your research and writing and do my best to remember there's far more we don't know than we do & some of what we are certain of knowing is wrong.
That said anyone who raised kiddies knows when the first child gets sick it's good odds at least one sibling will manifest identical symptoms and time curve for staying home & well again. Very likely classmates and their families will see a wave of flu like illness go through their homes too.
In the mothering book of illness it's evidence of transmission between people. I'm not bothered by the notion some yet to be identified source is the culprit but it will be a tough hill to climb to argue against contagiousness. :~)
Yes I agree it's the appearance of contagion that's the problem despite there being no scientific evidence for it. And we've been brain washed for years, all our lives, that the cause of most disease is infection, even though many have been shown to be toxins or deficiencies the programming lingers https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/were-so-far-down-the-rabbit-hole
However what I have come to think is that being 'sick' or 'ill' is not a disease! The symptoms are the healing. When we see health this way it all makes sense.
Keeping the family or work group healthy, stress and disease free is clearly of survival benefit. Those in the group will be experiencing the same fears, vitamin deficiencies, seasonal and pollution changes, EMF from base stations, and the same family, work, performance, financial, exam or holiday stresses at the same time; and will be detoxing at the same time.
Or one person may start symptoms thereby signalling (with visual or olfactory cues, pheromones or micro RNA) to the others in the group who respond by detoxing and resting, and therefore recovering, themselves. The need to detox can signal to the body to rest and recover but also periods of down time and rest will signal to the body that it is a good time to detox; people often experience ‘flu’ symptoms at the beginning of a holiday for example.
The wave of flu like illness is the homeostatic system working not just in one body but in the group. Because we are all intimately interconnected, inseparable social beings constantly communicating ALL the time, with each other and with other animals and plants around us, not just when a 'sickness' aka a healing goes around!
I would just add, too, that people are pretty interesting animals, given that we think we understand science and all about "disease" and disproving contagion is a tough hill to climb, but there are many who DO believe in an angry, magical white man in the sky that says he's our "father," who knows what we do, all 8 billion of us, knows what we think, even, and is ready to punish us if we don't think what he wants us to... Well, go fig.
thank you, I appreciate it . I agree with all those people being unhelpful in pushing viruses- I knew that Robert Malone was a snake in the grass from the first time I saw him. I put how suspicious I was on how these unknowns, Kirsch, GVB, Jessica Rose suddenly became talking heads and were everywhere here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with
I'm not sure about David Icke, I can't be arsed to listen all that NWO weird stuff exposing him. I don't care- I don't read or listen to any of his stuff.
Thank you , I hadn't seen this. Absolute proof that the lab leak is the narrative. Preprint non-peer reviewed aka propaganda is published on bioriix website, drip fed to MSM and jumped on by undiscerning alternative folks-'80% of Omicron-S mice died!!!
None of the mice died; they were euthanised after scores of ruffled fur, hunched posture, weight loss and respiratory distress. The mice were modified to express extra ACE-2 receptors making more susceptible to 'spike' protein (never shown to come from a virus) damage. We will note and ask, but pass over, why someone would do such barbaric things to fellow earthlings.
The Omicron patient sample had virtually no effect on mice. The virus we are all going on and on about was virtually harmless to mice even after injecting loads of it right up tiny mammals noses and directly into their lungs.
The other two were cell cultures, not samples, and they contained the toxic chemical phenol red.
The 'WT' was made from stressing abnormal cells in culture which we know produces the 'spike' protein, the Omni-S had the spike protein added. We know that the spike protein causes respiratory distress.
All this shows is that the lab leak is the official narrative.
And again makes us wonder why it is the spike protein the mRNA allegedly makes when we know it damages respiratory cells.
The "lab leak" narrative is soooooo stupid. WE know this, but people are ignorant on so many levels, it's hard to keep up explaining how so many bits and pieces are utter nonsense.
I have a definite conclusion: We're being duped, for a couple of centuries, we are dupees. Dupid. Dupadoodledupe. Dupe-plicitous. Dupalicious. Dupified. Dupraved. Dubouched. Duplimental. What would Jesus dupe? How do you dupe it? Dupe the right thing. Why dupe anything? Why don't we dupe it in the road? Don't dupe me like that.
Thank you for repeating what most people are unwilling or unable to hear.
My today's article seems to be a logical next step:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/an-alternative-theory-of-diseases
Has anyone tried to determine whether testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 (or any other virus) actually correlates with getting sick?
yes I believe SARs positivity and being asymptomatic -previously known as healthy is between 40% to 80%, so correlation with Sars and being sick may only be about 1 in 5
If you're using a PCR, the test is a dupe.
This is perplexing. The above certainly appears to be a serious and honest attempt to explore and persuade readers of the possibility that viruses, if they exist, do not transmit diseases. We know every generation of Big Pharma wants to sell its cures. Hence, unctuous "mental wellness" screenings that begin in elementary school. Beyond that, and infrequent horrendous pragmatism of such as the Indian vaccinations cited above, cui bono? To whose benefit?
I'm further troubled by the repetitive refrain throughout global history, not just American, in which populations on nearly every continent are documented as decimated following the advent of new pathogens spread by invading or newly mixed populations.
Many of course died by sword, spear and bullet in less war-ready populations, but none were so completely defenseless against invaders. And reported decimations occurred far faster than natives would have been wiped out. It seems these instances cannot *all* be discounted.
On a micro level here's my experience with Covid.
One day I was perfectly healthy.
I never - and I mean never consume anything but healthy food. No crisps. No soda. No KFC. No McDs. Never.
I eat a wide range of food - I suppose it might be a Paleo diet? Lots of nuts, veggies, fruit, fish, almost no dairy, some meat. I try to go with organic options - grow quite a bit of veg year round. If I must be in the supermarket I soak in baking soda and water to remove most of the toxins.
I exercise 5 or 6 days out of 7. In the winter it's a combination of ice hockey - skiing - weights - biking if it's a nice day.
Summer it's a lot of biking and weights and one night of summer hockey.
I semi retired in 2008 in my early 40s cuz I knew the end of the world was imminent (and here we are) so I have close to zero stress - I sleep minimum 8 hours per night and sometimes take a 20 minute nap in the afternoon.
My wife follows a similar lifestyle but she works.
Our 'terrain' is impeccable.
We sponsor two kids from the Philippines to attend school in NZ. They also have good 'terrain'. The almost never get sick. Never been to a doctor in the 10 years they've lived with us.
Then one day one of the comes home - sniffling and a slight cough. She takes a RAT test and gets a + for whatever that test is detecting (they say it's the covid virus). Then the boy gets sick the next day. Also tests +.
Then my wife - who never gets sick -- comes down with flu-like symptoms... body ache - head ache - nothing major - but she's not well enough to work for a few days (and meant to isolate) She tests +
The kids are back to normal in a couple of days.
Day 3 of my wife's illness - I wake up and can feel something coming on. Test + at noon.
I decide to take the anti viral medication Hydroxychloroquine to see what happens --- by dinner time I can feel whatever I have dissipating ... the feeling is the same as when a cold begins to break ... energy returning ... I feel just a tinge of illness on the second day... but continue with the full course of meds. By day 5 I'm on my bike for a 90 minute ride. I feel close to normal.
The anti malaria meds appear to have crushed whatever it was that made me feel ill.
Very obviously -- whatever the girl contracted -- was passed to her brother - and was passed to my wife then to me. And whatever I took smashed it.
And btw - during this period Covid was tearing through Queenstown - businesses were closed because of so many sick staff. My hockey league had teams with only 5 or 6 players able to make it - when I asked where everyone was - 'sick' 'covid'
Sam Bailey has not provided a better explanation for why something clearly was spreading throughout the community - and within our house.
So I am sticking with the 'virus' theory - call it something else if you want but there is without a doubt something being passed between people that makes them sick
And btw - I think all vaccines are bullshit - after reading Silent Killers https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/
You were not getting sick or ill, you were getting better and healing each other https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/brainwashing-about-contagion-is-a and suppressing the symptoms with HCQ or other is not helpful
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You've failed to explain why 4 of us got sick one after the other....
Ah right - feeling shitty is healing. I prefer not to heal then .... I like feeling like I do right now - fit and healthy and very ++++
Don't forget the 'diamond' princess
It looked like a poisoning event or the result of locking elderly people into their rooms. Similar toxic events happened on other ships but were ignored because they didn't fit the narrative of how the virus was meant to be travelling
quite; sorry should have been clearer I meant the 80% of Diamond Princess coronavirus patients had mild or no symptoms MSM factoid
I suppose because you didn't look?
Showing results for how many aztecs died from smallpox
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=how+many+aztecs+died+from+small+pox&btnG=
how do they know it was 'smallpox' which is just a collection of common detox symptoms?There was no test. The test uses genetic fragments and proteins never shown to come from an entity that causes disease rather than originating from the cell itself.
In the America's ... small pox did not exist.
Until the Spanish arrived.
Then millions of the indigenous people died from small pox
did they?
History, being written by the victors, would say so. I wonder if plying them with alcohol, burning their villages and injecting them with the lethal small pox vaccine had anything to do with it? https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/disease-and-colonialism
Seems to be a lot of support for the virus as the culprit ... and these are not the victors writing these papers... the victors are long dead...
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=how+many+natives+died+smallpox+central+america
Cortés with his 500 men then headed into the Mexican interior. This region was home to the Aztec civilization, an empire of an estimated 16 million people at this time. Through a system of conquest and tribute, the Aztecs had established the great island city of Tenochtitlan in Lake Texcoco that ruled over an area of about 80,000 square miles.
Recalling the epidemic, one victim reported:
“The plague lasted for 70 days, striking everywhere in the city and killing a vast number of our people. Sores erupted on our faces, our breasts, our bellies; we were covered with agonizing sores from head to foot.”
A Franciscan monk who accompanied Cortés provided this description:
“As the Indians did not know the remedy of the disease, they died in heaps, like bedbugs. In many places it happened that everyone in a house died, and as it was impossible to bury the great number of dead, they pulled down the houses over them, so that their homes became their tombs.”
Smallpox took its toll on the Aztecs in several ways. First, it killed many of its victims outright, particularly infants and young children. Many other adults were incapacitated by the disease – because they were either sick themselves, caring for sick relatives and neighbors, or simply lost the will to resist the Spaniards as they saw disease ravage those around them. Finally, people could no longer tend to their crops, leading to widespread famine, further weakening the immune systems of survivors of the epidemic.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/how-smallpox-devastated-the-aztecs-and-helped-spain-conquer-an-american-civilization-500-years-ago
I think you'll struggle to win this argument.....
yes seems to be a lot of brainwashing about viruses https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/brainwashing-about-contagion-is-a
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These are all unverifiable historical and anecdotal accounts. I am looking for experimental, controlled prospective studies in the literature.
That's the official narrative anyway. Probably as true as the one that claims that the smallpox vaccine was a miracle that eradicated smallpox.
Ya and the Earth is flat... let's revisit that while we are at it.
Yawn.
yes, I'm coming to the opinion that chickenpox doesn't count as a 'disease'. People happily invite it in even if babies and the frail and elderly are around. It has a few itchy bits for a few days then everyone gets better. There's no evidence any serious disease is not due to 'co-morbidites' and medications, nor that it's caused by a virus.
I think childhood pox is just a developmental phase of the homeostatic system.
🐒
ps there are no diseases at all -I was reminded just now of this quote from Florence Nightingale 'Is it not living in a continual mistake to look upon diseases, as we do now, as separate entities, which must exist, like cats and dogs, instead of looking upon them as conditions, like a clean and dirty condition ... I have seen with my eyes and smelt with my nose smallpox growing up in first specimens, either in close rooms or in overcrowded wards, where it could not by any possibility have been ‘caught’, but must have begun.' She was in a position to know- and expresses it beautifully
Yes, it seems to be more evidence of pleomorphism. Ive seen a really good explanation of chickenpox as a detox mechanism related to growth, I believe, but very eloquently explained that made a lot of sense (mightve been from Tracy Northern - i love her stuff!), will see if I can find it.
No one has any convincing sources, because viruses don't exist - period. And the fact that control experiments aren't done should alarm EVERYONE who cares about scientific integrity and truth.
I couldn't agree more. I think that's what I find so disappointing and frustrating. It's not that people have different opinions and disagree with me, it's that they won't look at the evidence. I thought that is what the freedom and truth 'movement' was all about- evidence based scientific integrity and truth seeking.
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The freedom movement IS about truth and what you said...
Just because someone CLAIMS to be part of the movement doesn't mean they actually ARE part of the movement. Part of SOME kind of movement, maybe...
Love your research and writing and do my best to remember there's far more we don't know than we do & some of what we are certain of knowing is wrong.
That said anyone who raised kiddies knows when the first child gets sick it's good odds at least one sibling will manifest identical symptoms and time curve for staying home & well again. Very likely classmates and their families will see a wave of flu like illness go through their homes too.
In the mothering book of illness it's evidence of transmission between people. I'm not bothered by the notion some yet to be identified source is the culprit but it will be a tough hill to climb to argue against contagiousness. :~)
Hiya Pamela,
Yes I agree it's the appearance of contagion that's the problem despite there being no scientific evidence for it. And we've been brain washed for years, all our lives, that the cause of most disease is infection, even though many have been shown to be toxins or deficiencies the programming lingers https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/were-so-far-down-the-rabbit-hole
However what I have come to think is that being 'sick' or 'ill' is not a disease! The symptoms are the healing. When we see health this way it all makes sense.
Keeping the family or work group healthy, stress and disease free is clearly of survival benefit. Those in the group will be experiencing the same fears, vitamin deficiencies, seasonal and pollution changes, EMF from base stations, and the same family, work, performance, financial, exam or holiday stresses at the same time; and will be detoxing at the same time.
Or one person may start symptoms thereby signalling (with visual or olfactory cues, pheromones or micro RNA) to the others in the group who respond by detoxing and resting, and therefore recovering, themselves. The need to detox can signal to the body to rest and recover but also periods of down time and rest will signal to the body that it is a good time to detox; people often experience ‘flu’ symptoms at the beginning of a holiday for example.
The wave of flu like illness is the homeostatic system working not just in one body but in the group. Because we are all intimately interconnected, inseparable social beings constantly communicating ALL the time, with each other and with other animals and plants around us, not just when a 'sickness' aka a healing goes around!
https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-tiny-water-flea-has-31000-genes
I think this new way of thinking of our connection to each other, not as bags of disease, but of healing is the way forward
Jo
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xxx
Ps thank you so much and yes we don't know much 🙏🏽 we do well to be open and in awe x
Great answer!
I would just add, too, that people are pretty interesting animals, given that we think we understand science and all about "disease" and disproving contagion is a tough hill to climb, but there are many who DO believe in an angry, magical white man in the sky that says he's our "father," who knows what we do, all 8 billion of us, knows what we think, even, and is ready to punish us if we don't think what he wants us to... Well, go fig.
I've been alarmed for nearly three years now. Before that I was just astoundergast.
Great summary, thank you for this. Below is something similar but perhaps a bit more controversial. I would love to get your take on this - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/the-gatekeepers-club
thank you, I appreciate it . I agree with all those people being unhelpful in pushing viruses- I knew that Robert Malone was a snake in the grass from the first time I saw him. I put how suspicious I was on how these unknowns, Kirsch, GVB, Jessica Rose suddenly became talking heads and were everywhere here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with
I'm not sure about David Icke, I can't be arsed to listen all that NWO weird stuff exposing him. I don't care- I don't read or listen to any of his stuff.
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Thank you , I hadn't seen this. Absolute proof that the lab leak is the narrative. Preprint non-peer reviewed aka propaganda is published on bioriix website, drip fed to MSM and jumped on by undiscerning alternative folks-'80% of Omicron-S mice died!!!
None of the mice died; they were euthanised after scores of ruffled fur, hunched posture, weight loss and respiratory distress. The mice were modified to express extra ACE-2 receptors making more susceptible to 'spike' protein (never shown to come from a virus) damage. We will note and ask, but pass over, why someone would do such barbaric things to fellow earthlings.
The Omicron patient sample had virtually no effect on mice. The virus we are all going on and on about was virtually harmless to mice even after injecting loads of it right up tiny mammals noses and directly into their lungs.
The other two were cell cultures, not samples, and they contained the toxic chemical phenol red.
The 'WT' was made from stressing abnormal cells in culture which we know produces the 'spike' protein, the Omni-S had the spike protein added. We know that the spike protein causes respiratory distress.
All this shows is that the lab leak is the official narrative.
And again makes us wonder why it is the spike protein the mRNA allegedly makes when we know it damages respiratory cells.
Jo
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The "lab leak" narrative is soooooo stupid. WE know this, but people are ignorant on so many levels, it's hard to keep up explaining how so many bits and pieces are utter nonsense.
Have you seen this vid?
https://rumble.com/v1w1fcn-aman-jabbi-the-final-lockdown-street-lights-that-kill-in-smart-cities-cbdc-.html
Stick in until the end when we get some ideas about what to do.
I love that guy.