Frances so beautifully reconciles the truth of the 'elites' message with their unenlightened and egotist reasons for saying it- they know not what they say!
I guess I'm sorta in the middle on this one. I'm vegan solely because factory farms are probably the worst thing going on in the world today with regard to human created suffering. That said, I respect people's right to come to that truth in their own time. I can only control the suffering that I create and so I choose to have no part of it. I would be happy if we got back to regenerative farming and animals being out in the sun, happy, and unaware that one day it will be over in the most humane way possible. That's still not ideal, but it would be a major improvement over the literal horror that happens every day in industrial animal agriculture.
As far as the climate change scam goes, it's just another excuse for the globalists to take away our liberties and force their agenda upon us. I'd love to see corporate polluters stop poisoning our rivers and streams, soil and air, but the science is quite clear that CO2 could triple and the effect would be negligible. The earth is in a warming phase that will balance out as it has for thousands of years. What IS an existential threat is putting thousands of farmers out of business and starving millions to death because of the 1-2 degree difference that we will easily adapt to until the next cooling trend.
Covid and CO2 induced climate change are scams used to bankrupt nations, destroy livelihoods and control us.
But illness, environmental degradation, species loss and animal abuse are real.
If more people practice awareness they'll stop being wilfully ignorant of factory farming for example and we all start to get somewhere collectively more harmonious with Mother Earth.
I'm so lucky I live near, volunteer and buy from a regenerative organic veg plot (with some fruit). We are facing tough times as prices are rising with the proxy war scam etc, we get less and less customers, who buy cheaper, pesticide food and therefore get sicker. this ideal (CO2 friendly) method of community farming is also threatened.
The meat industry is still heavily subsidised and growing organic veg is not. 'They' don't actually want us to be healthy vegans at all. The system wants us fat, sick and on drugs. Or like you say dead.
Ps I don't know if you've seen Conspiracy, I know I may now disagree with the impact of methane and co2 etc but animal agriculture does take up lots more room and land than eating from the soil, especially if not factory farmed. The scene of clearing land for 'regenerative'- though it's not a closed system; water and energy must still be added- in Africa where Alan Savoury ordered the corralling and shooting of any families of elephants and their terrified babies to make way for his idyllic and bucolic scenes of animals raised for human consumption with this blood shed- stuck in my craw big time and I fundamentally question everything he says.
And for me humane slaughter at 6 months of age cos we like the taste of your babies legs- is an oxymoron. Working in a slaughter house and meat packing, however tenderly, slowly and carefully the murder is done, ( there would have to millions of slaughters houses to make enough meat to feed 8 billion) is still the worst job in the world and done by the most vulnerable in society. It's a human rights issue just as much as an animal rights one.
Well said, Jo, and I loved Frances' article. Plus, The O'Jay's "Love Train" has a special place in my heart. It's too long of a story but I both tear up and smile every time I hear it, so thx! xoxo
aww Barbara now I want to hear the story! You must be following Frances' life and love stories - perhaps you could do instalments too! I would love to read.
so glad it makes you smile anyway- I love soul and funk music xxx
I'm not quite sure the meaning of this story ,I think all the elites are hurt little children, playing with an enormous bunch of expensive toys which never satisfy them. Realisation and love can reach anyone and everyone; they can be healed and come into the light. The elites are no more lost than anyone other tom, dick or Henrietta who is living with self-hate, they just are more famous and much richer; when they try to take away from us what they haven't got, ie happiness, they become even more obvious and famous in their unhappiness.
Great reply! And nice post. I feel sorry for those Klaus Schwab boys. They are lost and don't know that with each new deceptive, cleverly planned plot against their fellow humans, they become more and more monster. Ignorance is their common disease and is the real pandemic.
I liked the idea of people that could find it in them to walk away from it. To choose to not be a part of it, to give up their known life because it was built on suffering, and go look for something else.
If you make me look at it more closely it still falls short morally but perhaps it captures a mentality that serves as a bridge for those that need to step away, separate themselves from the world before taking up the fight against something that was part of their own makeup a second ago.
I hadn't heard the phrase black pilled before- yes I can see things can appear bleak.
I suppose I don't see any of it as a 'fight', because what you resist persists!
What was part of my make up, my self hate, fear, anger and resistance still is part of it, it doesn't go away . I chose not to play along with it. It's still there, grumbling away; its like child, I neither run away from it, she''ll catch me up, nor sit down and join in the grumbling, I give her a hug.
I think everyone has the self hate inside them. that's how I can have compassion for them, whatever they've had done to them or done, and there's hope that they will find what I found, cos I was able to find it, which is unconditional love and forgiveness
we all need to separate ourselves from the world - if by that you mean the news, fear of the future, doom and gloom ALL the time. Constantly coming back to the present moment to the breath where the past and future do not and cannot exist.
Who knows what would happen if more of us started dong that!
I guess I'm sorta in the middle on this one. I'm vegan solely because factory farms are probably the worst thing going on in the world today with regard to human created suffering. That said, I respect people's right to come to that truth in their own time. I can only control the suffering that I create and so I choose to have no part of it. I would be happy if we got back to regenerative farming and animals being out in the sun, happy, and unaware that one day it will be over in the most humane way possible. That's still not ideal, but it would be a major improvement over the literal horror that happens every day in industrial animal agriculture.
As far as the climate change scam goes, it's just another excuse for the globalists to take away our liberties and force their agenda upon us. I'd love to see corporate polluters stop poisoning our rivers and streams, soil and air, but the science is quite clear that CO2 could triple and the effect would be negligible. The earth is in a warming phase that will balance out as it has for thousands of years. What IS an existential threat is putting thousands of farmers out of business and starving millions to death because of the 1-2 degree difference that we will easily adapt to until the next cooling trend.
The IPCC knows climate like the CDC knows covid.
I think you sum it up very nicely.
Covid and CO2 induced climate change are scams used to bankrupt nations, destroy livelihoods and control us.
But illness, environmental degradation, species loss and animal abuse are real.
If more people practice awareness they'll stop being wilfully ignorant of factory farming for example and we all start to get somewhere collectively more harmonious with Mother Earth.
I'm so lucky I live near, volunteer and buy from a regenerative organic veg plot (with some fruit). We are facing tough times as prices are rising with the proxy war scam etc, we get less and less customers, who buy cheaper, pesticide food and therefore get sicker. this ideal (CO2 friendly) method of community farming is also threatened.
The meat industry is still heavily subsidised and growing organic veg is not. 'They' don't actually want us to be healthy vegans at all. The system wants us fat, sick and on drugs. Or like you say dead.
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Ps I don't know if you've seen Conspiracy, I know I may now disagree with the impact of methane and co2 etc but animal agriculture does take up lots more room and land than eating from the soil, especially if not factory farmed. The scene of clearing land for 'regenerative'- though it's not a closed system; water and energy must still be added- in Africa where Alan Savoury ordered the corralling and shooting of any families of elephants and their terrified babies to make way for his idyllic and bucolic scenes of animals raised for human consumption with this blood shed- stuck in my craw big time and I fundamentally question everything he says.
And for me humane slaughter at 6 months of age cos we like the taste of your babies legs- is an oxymoron. Working in a slaughter house and meat packing, however tenderly, slowly and carefully the murder is done, ( there would have to millions of slaughters houses to make enough meat to feed 8 billion) is still the worst job in the world and done by the most vulnerable in society. It's a human rights issue just as much as an animal rights one.
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Well said, Jo, and I loved Frances' article. Plus, The O'Jay's "Love Train" has a special place in my heart. It's too long of a story but I both tear up and smile every time I hear it, so thx! xoxo
aww Barbara now I want to hear the story! You must be following Frances' life and love stories - perhaps you could do instalments too! I would love to read.
so glad it makes you smile anyway- I love soul and funk music xxx
Maybe one day I'll write about it. :) There's some family pain/resolution involved. Yes, I love reading Frances' Sunday stories! xoxo B
When it comes to the 'elites', everybody should know that pitchforks aren't going to be much use against robot dogs with guns on their backs. I forget where I read this, but its a great short story and I guess is my answer for what can realistically be done. https://learning.hccs.edu/faculty/emily.klotz/engl1302-6/readings/the-ones-who-walk-away-from-omelas-ursula-le-guin/view
I'm not quite sure the meaning of this story ,I think all the elites are hurt little children, playing with an enormous bunch of expensive toys which never satisfy them. Realisation and love can reach anyone and everyone; they can be healed and come into the light. The elites are no more lost than anyone other tom, dick or Henrietta who is living with self-hate, they just are more famous and much richer; when they try to take away from us what they haven't got, ie happiness, they become even more obvious and famous in their unhappiness.
Great reply! And nice post. I feel sorry for those Klaus Schwab boys. They are lost and don't know that with each new deceptive, cleverly planned plot against their fellow humans, they become more and more monster. Ignorance is their common disease and is the real pandemic.
Thank you 🙏🏽
I liked the idea of people that could find it in them to walk away from it. To choose to not be a part of it, to give up their known life because it was built on suffering, and go look for something else.
If you make me look at it more closely it still falls short morally but perhaps it captures a mentality that serves as a bridge for those that need to step away, separate themselves from the world before taking up the fight against something that was part of their own makeup a second ago.
I've been a bit black pilled lately.
I hadn't heard the phrase black pilled before- yes I can see things can appear bleak.
I suppose I don't see any of it as a 'fight', because what you resist persists!
What was part of my make up, my self hate, fear, anger and resistance still is part of it, it doesn't go away . I chose not to play along with it. It's still there, grumbling away; its like child, I neither run away from it, she''ll catch me up, nor sit down and join in the grumbling, I give her a hug.
I think everyone has the self hate inside them. that's how I can have compassion for them, whatever they've had done to them or done, and there's hope that they will find what I found, cos I was able to find it, which is unconditional love and forgiveness
we all need to separate ourselves from the world - if by that you mean the news, fear of the future, doom and gloom ALL the time. Constantly coming back to the present moment to the breath where the past and future do not and cannot exist.
Who knows what would happen if more of us started dong that!
🐒