OK, without doing any web searches, and off the top of my head ;-)
There are many things I cannot objectively verify from my own observations. However I can use my rational faculties to determine that, after weighing the evidence, a certain proposition is true.
For the case of viruses, there is a vast corpus of medical and scientific information which suggests that the concept of the 'virus' is a good model to explain many phenomena that I cannot directly observe. I can verify from my own experience that there must be some type of pathogen that is transmitted via the air or via touch which is not identifiable as bacterial in origin (otherwise the bacteria would be observed and identified). The pathogen causes a set of symptoms which is particular according to the species and is similar from individual to individual.
The theories of virus lifecycles make sense from a biological point of view. The virus has outsourced all cellular processes to the host cell except the conservation of genetic information. The virion itself is simply the transmission mechanism for this genetic information.
There are a huge number of people working on the study of viruses. A vax taxonomy of the various virus families has been elucidated. I have seen electron micrographs of bacteriophages! There is a huge pharmaceutical industry making money from the proposition that pathogenic viruses exist.
Other examples of things I infer from contextual evidence: I cannot verify that the earth is spherical, but there is a great deal of complementary information which suggests it is. No one will ever see or isolate an individual electron, but there are a vast number of phenomena which suggests they exist.
So, there you go. Give me your killer idea (besides the isolation problem) why virus existence seems to be such a problem for some.
I disagree that virus is a 'good' model- it has been absolutely catastrophic in terms of subjugation to the medical/pharma/drug/vaccine juggernaut and subsequent injuries and deaths, not to mention people dying alone and destroying small business and the economy with lockdowns.
Yes yes yes we all now bacteriophage and giant viruses (spores) exist.
the fact that people are making money out of a PSYOP doesn't mean it's not a PYSOP!
Your final point just about says it all; 'give me a killer idea why virus existence is the problem without referring to the problem that they have never been seen or purified in people that are meant to have them; despite this not being a technical problem, many smaller and less abundant things are successfully 'isolated' all the time. Nor observed by effects in culture that don't also happen to controls. Nor have symptoms been seen to be transmitted or transferred between animals or people in experiments.
The problem is you can't see that 'isolation', meaning any evidence at all, is a problem,
I agree it could be a psyop. There might be no novel pathogen called SARS-COV-2. The mRNA sequence delivered by WIV was computer-generated and not, as far as I know, isolated from a real viral specimen. But when I weigh up the evidence I think there was a real respiratory viral pathogen going around globally over the past 3 years.
No need to invoke Big Pharma psychos, the absurd claims for the efficacy of mRNA 'vaccines', and the crime against humanity that was lockdown policy, we know this, right? That's why we're here and discussing these things.
I don't want to get hung up on 'isolation' because it is incidental to the main point: there was a pathogen circulating and making people ill.
except that the main point is that there wasn't a pathogen circulating making people ill and that there aren't pathogens and there is no need for any vaccines whatsoever.
My take: there might be something in terrain theory, but to me, as a person educated as a biologist and formerly employed in pathology research, to say the pathogens don't exist means a huge amount of contextual evidence built on centuries of observation must be discounted. It would be like saying the earth is flat.
So I politely disagree with your position, but celebrate your right to state it.
I assume because of germ theory and all the bacteria in unpasteurised (a known fraudster) milk. You can't buy it in the UK either.
I have no objection to bacteria.
It's the dairy industry I object to and the effect of 'the rape rack', repeated insemination and pregnancies and the subsequent stealing of precious babies from mothers eagerly awaiting them, slaughter or imprisonment for veal for her sons. The presence of pus cells and inflammatory proteins in the milk from her udders, meant to communicate with her baby, causing asthma and eczema in those drinking it, the presence of IGF-1 and other growth factors meant to put many pounds on a calf in a few days, causing hormonal cancers in humans drinking it, and the amount of saturated fat.
Be sure to get boosted; without depopulation, the planet is doomed. Of course, when the sun becomes a red giant, the planet is doomed anyway.
But let's face it, a dusty rock in space that evolved a primate that feels to save said dusty rock it must kill as many other bald primates as possible is a whole lot of fun, isn't it?
If you are only pissing off one side, you aren't doing it right!
teehee I LOVE that ♥️😺
To my mind, there's too much contextual evidence for the presence of viruses, but I admire your contrarian viewpoint, and willingness to defend it.
care to share some of the evidence that's not just circumstantial?
OK, without doing any web searches, and off the top of my head ;-)
There are many things I cannot objectively verify from my own observations. However I can use my rational faculties to determine that, after weighing the evidence, a certain proposition is true.
For the case of viruses, there is a vast corpus of medical and scientific information which suggests that the concept of the 'virus' is a good model to explain many phenomena that I cannot directly observe. I can verify from my own experience that there must be some type of pathogen that is transmitted via the air or via touch which is not identifiable as bacterial in origin (otherwise the bacteria would be observed and identified). The pathogen causes a set of symptoms which is particular according to the species and is similar from individual to individual.
The theories of virus lifecycles make sense from a biological point of view. The virus has outsourced all cellular processes to the host cell except the conservation of genetic information. The virion itself is simply the transmission mechanism for this genetic information.
There are a huge number of people working on the study of viruses. A vax taxonomy of the various virus families has been elucidated. I have seen electron micrographs of bacteriophages! There is a huge pharmaceutical industry making money from the proposition that pathogenic viruses exist.
Other examples of things I infer from contextual evidence: I cannot verify that the earth is spherical, but there is a great deal of complementary information which suggests it is. No one will ever see or isolate an individual electron, but there are a vast number of phenomena which suggests they exist.
So, there you go. Give me your killer idea (besides the isolation problem) why virus existence seems to be such a problem for some.
I disagree that virus is a 'good' model- it has been absolutely catastrophic in terms of subjugation to the medical/pharma/drug/vaccine juggernaut and subsequent injuries and deaths, not to mention people dying alone and destroying small business and the economy with lockdowns.
Yes yes yes we all now bacteriophage and giant viruses (spores) exist.
the fact that people are making money out of a PSYOP doesn't mean it's not a PYSOP!
Your final point just about says it all; 'give me a killer idea why virus existence is the problem without referring to the problem that they have never been seen or purified in people that are meant to have them; despite this not being a technical problem, many smaller and less abundant things are successfully 'isolated' all the time. Nor observed by effects in culture that don't also happen to controls. Nor have symptoms been seen to be transmitted or transferred between animals or people in experiments.
The problem is you can't see that 'isolation', meaning any evidence at all, is a problem,
🙏🏽
I agree it could be a psyop. There might be no novel pathogen called SARS-COV-2. The mRNA sequence delivered by WIV was computer-generated and not, as far as I know, isolated from a real viral specimen. But when I weigh up the evidence I think there was a real respiratory viral pathogen going around globally over the past 3 years.
No need to invoke Big Pharma psychos, the absurd claims for the efficacy of mRNA 'vaccines', and the crime against humanity that was lockdown policy, we know this, right? That's why we're here and discussing these things.
I don't want to get hung up on 'isolation' because it is incidental to the main point: there was a pathogen circulating and making people ill.
except that the main point is that there wasn't a pathogen circulating making people ill and that there aren't pathogens and there is no need for any vaccines whatsoever.
My take: there might be something in terrain theory, but to me, as a person educated as a biologist and formerly employed in pathology research, to say the pathogens don't exist means a huge amount of contextual evidence built on centuries of observation must be discounted. It would be like saying the earth is flat.
So I politely disagree with your position, but celebrate your right to state it.
That was hard to read with all the extraneous links in the middle of the article.
So, eating meat is anti-planet?
yeah
Oh, you've never raised livestock, have you?
Do you have any pets?
I assume because of germ theory and all the bacteria in unpasteurised (a known fraudster) milk. You can't buy it in the UK either.
I have no objection to bacteria.
It's the dairy industry I object to and the effect of 'the rape rack', repeated insemination and pregnancies and the subsequent stealing of precious babies from mothers eagerly awaiting them, slaughter or imprisonment for veal for her sons. The presence of pus cells and inflammatory proteins in the milk from her udders, meant to communicate with her baby, causing asthma and eczema in those drinking it, the presence of IGF-1 and other growth factors meant to put many pounds on a calf in a few days, causing hormonal cancers in humans drinking it, and the amount of saturated fat.
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You really love the MSM, don't you?
Be sure to get boosted; without depopulation, the planet is doomed. Of course, when the sun becomes a red giant, the planet is doomed anyway.
But let's face it, a dusty rock in space that evolved a primate that feels to save said dusty rock it must kill as many other bald primates as possible is a whole lot of fun, isn't it?
Yes, because it's good for you.