I think they thought he would be dead by now. Yes, he shouldn't have served any time at all, nor had to hid away in the embassy, but it is becoming so embarrassing now, I hope they let him home.
Unfortunately, I didn't follow this from the beginning, and I never caught up with the facts of what he did, so I don't feel I know enough to give an opinion. But at this point, this should end.
I came to it late too. I was always a bit hazy about whether he had actually done anything wrong. In any case, he is being held without charge, they haven't even accused him of anything, so they are the ones who are illegally imprisoning him. He published some verifiable information that embarrassed the US government. That is all.
Holding someone without charge, and conviction at a certain point, is wrong. My area of confusion is the information he released and whether or not it constituted spying or betraying or if it was a case of whistleblowing. Thanks for the explanation.
If you're interested Chelsea Manning of the US Army was the whistleblower, who passed intelligence, belonging to the US government, about Guantanamo bay, the Iraq war and the killing of Afghan civilians by US forces, to Wikileaks who passed it on the NY times, Guardian, Der Spiegel and El Pais. Manning was detained for 7 years. Some confidential info was published by mistake by the Guardian and one journalist had to leave his country.
There's video of US helicopter pilots shooting innocent people, one a photographer. After they mowed them down, laughing and joking, they made a second swoop to kill those who were partially injured as they tried to help stricken friends. Horrible to listen and watch. I'm sure there's more. If he gets extradited to US, they will lock him up for eternity. Our governments just do what they want. Protestors, republicans at Chuckie's crowning got arrested and locked up for 16 hrs "just in case" they may cause any trouble and this happening afterr squaring the protest details with police well in advance.
Yes, new police laws were brought in using the excuse that they were specially for the coronation, though of cause they will never be repelled. Apparently you can now get 12 months in prison for blocking a road. And yes they can pre-empt crimes and look you up before you do anything.
I haven't watched the video but am glad you've put what is in it. This is the important information which is deliberatey glossed over by the media who are focusing with all their might on the personalities of all the recent whistleblowers instead.
I have tended to view the British Monarchy as an alternative to the actual government. I recall a video of Queen Elizabeth II visiting sick people in hospital (I no longer remember what the sickness was), she was present and speaking to the individual patients, something the police or whatever would never have done. Were Charles to visit Belmarsh would be a comparable act of mercy. I doubt it will ever happen - I recall no instances of Charles' mercy, public or private. A lifetime of observing his mother seems to have had no positive influence.
Charlie maybe regretted not standing up for himself and marrying the love of his life in the first place. His unhappiness was compounded by the public loving Diana much more than they loved him. The royal family, for as long as they continue, have their lives on display- maybe there'e s lot we can learn from them, but not in the way they think.
I have every reason to believe Assange wrote it. Russell Brand read it out on his show and he is in close communication with Julian's wife, Stella Assange. It was printed in the Guardian
Yes, the humour is particularly gut and heart wrenching- what a contrast between the millions at an open air pageant for a man born to privilege and a man, charged with no crime, being slowly murdered by misery inside a solitary cell for 23 hours a day, just a few miles from each other. So much for our so-called civilised, advanced society.
Hasn't he served enough time, in one place or another? Mercy is most definitely in order.
I think they thought he would be dead by now. Yes, he shouldn't have served any time at all, nor had to hid away in the embassy, but it is becoming so embarrassing now, I hope they let him home.
Unfortunately, I didn't follow this from the beginning, and I never caught up with the facts of what he did, so I don't feel I know enough to give an opinion. But at this point, this should end.
I came to it late too. I was always a bit hazy about whether he had actually done anything wrong. In any case, he is being held without charge, they haven't even accused him of anything, so they are the ones who are illegally imprisoning him. He published some verifiable information that embarrassed the US government. That is all.
Holding someone without charge, and conviction at a certain point, is wrong. My area of confusion is the information he released and whether or not it constituted spying or betraying or if it was a case of whistleblowing. Thanks for the explanation.
If you're interested Chelsea Manning of the US Army was the whistleblower, who passed intelligence, belonging to the US government, about Guantanamo bay, the Iraq war and the killing of Afghan civilians by US forces, to Wikileaks who passed it on the NY times, Guardian, Der Spiegel and El Pais. Manning was detained for 7 years. Some confidential info was published by mistake by the Guardian and one journalist had to leave his country.
There's video of US helicopter pilots shooting innocent people, one a photographer. After they mowed them down, laughing and joking, they made a second swoop to kill those who were partially injured as they tried to help stricken friends. Horrible to listen and watch. I'm sure there's more. If he gets extradited to US, they will lock him up for eternity. Our governments just do what they want. Protestors, republicans at Chuckie's crowning got arrested and locked up for 16 hrs "just in case" they may cause any trouble and this happening afterr squaring the protest details with police well in advance.
Yes, new police laws were brought in using the excuse that they were specially for the coronation, though of cause they will never be repelled. Apparently you can now get 12 months in prison for blocking a road. And yes they can pre-empt crimes and look you up before you do anything.
I haven't watched the video but am glad you've put what is in it. This is the important information which is deliberatey glossed over by the media who are focusing with all their might on the personalities of all the recent whistleblowers instead.
How gruesome.
I can only hope such a letter is received and actually read by Charles.
Well done!
I think he will read it. Whether he actually goes to Belmarsh is another thing. I think it would be a huge boost to his cred if he did.
I have tended to view the British Monarchy as an alternative to the actual government. I recall a video of Queen Elizabeth II visiting sick people in hospital (I no longer remember what the sickness was), she was present and speaking to the individual patients, something the police or whatever would never have done. Were Charles to visit Belmarsh would be a comparable act of mercy. I doubt it will ever happen - I recall no instances of Charles' mercy, public or private. A lifetime of observing his mother seems to have had no positive influence.
Yes indeed, Diana of course famously visited 'AIDS' patients before it was really trendy
Diana got the public service memo. Charles did not.
Charlie maybe regretted not standing up for himself and marrying the love of his life in the first place. His unhappiness was compounded by the public loving Diana much more than they loved him. The royal family, for as long as they continue, have their lives on display- maybe there'e s lot we can learn from them, but not in the way they think.
It is in fact a greater crime to have incarcerated a man like this as a reactionary manoeuvre by the corrupt US secret services!!
Wow...
Yes, I know, it's gut wrenching
That poor man and his family.
I have every reason to believe Assange wrote it. Russell Brand read it out on his show and he is in close communication with Julian's wife, Stella Assange. It was printed in the Guardian
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Yes, the humour is particularly gut and heart wrenching- what a contrast between the millions at an open air pageant for a man born to privilege and a man, charged with no crime, being slowly murdered by misery inside a solitary cell for 23 hours a day, just a few miles from each other. So much for our so-called civilised, advanced society.
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Teehee say what you think!! Can't argue with any of it