On the Maui fires, we should not be making any absolute claims or debunks on causality or be trying to convince others of a specific narrative at this point, including the guy in the Vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVID8jENuzQ.
We need to see scientific data, satellite data, radar data, detailed chemical and radiological analysis residue of dust, dirt and debris (esp where people are claiming DEWs hit), sound recordings etc. We can not allow rapid conclusions like society did for 9.11 or Covid. We all saw how those things ended up.
What is clear, is that neither FEMA, the Red Cross, or the Feds were helpful, private aid already on the ground was blocked and had to come in by sea (WTF), the only one exit road from Lahania city was noted to be blocked by police (WTF), and the police chief was the same guy who ran the Vegas shooting (WTF). Biden didn't speak about it and offered only $700 per household, but $billions are being sent to Ukraine (WTF). I've got a special keyboard with a "WTF" key.
errr he does't make any absolute claims of causality, just suggestions, and he repeats no one knows for sure anything, but the images are specifically debunked as being from Chile. I don't see that he has a specific narrative other than the obvious- that the precautions and infrastructure need better investment so it doesn't happen again. If you think that this is objectionable on the grounds that he has an agenda- then I think you're mad! Actually, he's saying all the things that you are saying are 'clear' , about 'authorities' being very unhelpful, the police chief from vegas, the only exit being blocked. I had exactly the same thought as you when Two bit da Vinci (did you actually have time to watch it?) was describing the lack of investment in the power lines, about the $billions going to Ukraine. Your comment actually is saying exactly the same thing as the video!!
Whatever the cause of the spark - it had to be hot and very dry to make a flame.
Your reply is fair enough, I was just adding the response. Yes I saw it, TO ME he is leaning heavily on the natural cause, I'm not saying he's right or wrong. Debunking one Chilean photo doesn't debunk the intentional cause anymore than debunking one EM photo of a virus prove no virus has been found. The whole story needs to be reviewed and he does not do that, and has not waited for the scientific and other forensic analysis to come in (assuming it is allowed to be analyzed in a timely and thorough fashion). That's it for now!
Certainly their emergency preparedness procedures were lacking. I do not see this necessarily as a funding issue. I see it as incompetence. Why weren't there fire drills?
Then your a fool. ( To think that DEW has to be a space based alien weapons system )
Days before the fire locals were doing videos showing raining aluminum foil powder from the sky
On the day of fire all they would need is a microwave equipped plane to fly over and and generate a high-power microwave RF and "BOOM" all that aluminum would explode just like "THERMITE" which burns at 4500F, hot enough to melt all metals
..
I agree space lasers and this dumb photo are bullshit, but the aluminum foil did rain down all over the area days before the fires;
...
People like you shouldn't even write about DEW - Direct Energy Weapons, because you think its alien technology from space, this is stuff that has been around since pre WW2 when USA developed RADAR, which is just high-frequency RF waves, and even in 1940's they knew that High-Power RF would cause aluminum&magnesium powders on the ground to violently explode and even make steel hot enough to burn
Have you ever ran an oxy-acetelyene torch and burned "IRON" It burns just like paper when hot enough
Here is the video, watch it, they don't know what they're seeing but what they're explaining is all the weird things leading up to the big fire day. In this video you can clearly see the aluminum-foil powder falling on the car windows while driving in town
...
Experiment, take a handful of aluminum, but in a high speed coffee grinder and make into a 'white powder' not put on a piece of paper in the microwave and turn on, you will get an explosion not enough to blow the door off the microwave, but a large burst flames;
Now imagine an entire town dusted with this shit, and a plane flys over with high-powered microwave, and all that material ignites, and recall that when it mixes with iron-oxide(rust power), or silicon-oxide (sand) it can form "THERMITE", the winds could have led to 'drifts' of material so when it was ignited there would have been hot-spots with continous burning.
How to make 'thermite' from beach sand&alum powder and destroy a city.
...
How to make "THERMITE" explosive with aluminum-powder & beach-sand: How to ignite it and destroy your own home, country, or whatever
Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone
Days before the fire locals were doing videos showing rain aluminum foil powder from the sky
On the day of fire all they would need is a microwave equipped plane to fly over and and generate a high-power microwave RF and "BOOM" all that aluminum would explode just like "THERMITE" which burns at 4500F, (2200C) hot enough to melt all metals
..
I agree space lasers and this dumb photo are bullshit, but the aluminum foil did rain down all over the area days before the fires;
...
People like you shouldn't even write about DEW - Direct Energy Weapons, because you think its alien technology from space, this is stuff that has been around since pre WW2 when USA developed RADAR, which is just high-frequency RF waves, and even in 1940's they knew that High-Power RF would cause aluminum&magnesium powders on the ground to violently explode and even make steel hot enough to burn
Have you ever ran an oxy-acetelyene torch and burned "IRON" It burns just like paper when hot enough
Here is the video, watch it, they don't know what they're seeing but what they're explaining is all the weird things leading up to the big fire day. In this video you can clearly see the aluminum-foil powder falling on the car windows while driving in town
...
Experiment, take a handful of aluminum, but in a high speed coffee grinder and make into a 'white powder' not put on a piece of paper in the microwave and turn on, you will get an explosion not enough to blow the door off the microwave, but a large burst flames;
Now imagine an entire town dusted with this shit, and a plane flys over with high-powered microwave, and all that material ignites, and recall that when it mixes with iron-oxide(rust power), or silicon-oxide (sand) it can form "THERMITE", the winds could have led to 'drifts' of material so when it was ignited there would have been hot-spots with continous burning.
...
Maui Fires - Directed Energy Weapons and Geoengineering
The destruction and loss of life that occurred on 8/8/2023 on Maui is simply too devastating to be passed off as “natural”. The truth is this was far from natural! In this video I will explain why I b
Silicon-Dioxide ( common beach sand ) in powder form from winds, combined with aluminum powder like dusted on Maui day before the fire becomes “THERMITE” an explosive that is so hot when its burning that it melts steel and burns it.
How can you or anyone say water was not available - when the Pacific Ocean was feet away? What is the harm of using salt water to extinguish a fire? Why waste the potable water supply?
Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone
...
The corpses found in Lahina, most of them all the tissue was burnt to the bone, including the bones, like the sweet LV pig said "You could walk around town and be stepping on somebody and not even know it".
I agree that these corpses should have a chemical analysis, bet that won't happen though. All and more of the analyses in my top post should be done full stop.
Threw out any semblance of credibility when you threw in the "climate change" boogeyman.
Furthermore, none of this explains why they chose a Californian as their police chief, over 4 native candidates, waived the 1 year residency requirement, paid his $50k moving expenses, and gave him a 29% raise after only a few months! Nor does it excuse his rude, insubordinant refusal to answer questions.
And why did government jerks hinder relief efforts?
of course it stinks, I said that. mY point is in clown world the conspiracy of the goveneror and the blocked roads etc is given as much air and it's flames are being fanned by MSM as their own alleged 'factual' reporting. The two worlds have collided. They are the same world. Climate change (which is not to blame it can't cause fires) is not the bogeyman, pictures of transformers in Chile proving that DEWs in Maui are enforcing 15 minutes cities are.
On the Maui fires, we should not be making any absolute claims or debunks on causality or be trying to convince others of a specific narrative at this point, including the guy in the Vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVID8jENuzQ.
We need to see scientific data, satellite data, radar data, detailed chemical and radiological analysis residue of dust, dirt and debris (esp where people are claiming DEWs hit), sound recordings etc. We can not allow rapid conclusions like society did for 9.11 or Covid. We all saw how those things ended up.
What is clear, is that neither FEMA, the Red Cross, or the Feds were helpful, private aid already on the ground was blocked and had to come in by sea (WTF), the only one exit road from Lahania city was noted to be blocked by police (WTF), and the police chief was the same guy who ran the Vegas shooting (WTF). Biden didn't speak about it and offered only $700 per household, but $billions are being sent to Ukraine (WTF). I've got a special keyboard with a "WTF" key.
errr he does't make any absolute claims of causality, just suggestions, and he repeats no one knows for sure anything, but the images are specifically debunked as being from Chile. I don't see that he has a specific narrative other than the obvious- that the precautions and infrastructure need better investment so it doesn't happen again. If you think that this is objectionable on the grounds that he has an agenda- then I think you're mad! Actually, he's saying all the things that you are saying are 'clear' , about 'authorities' being very unhelpful, the police chief from vegas, the only exit being blocked. I had exactly the same thought as you when Two bit da Vinci (did you actually have time to watch it?) was describing the lack of investment in the power lines, about the $billions going to Ukraine. Your comment actually is saying exactly the same thing as the video!!
Whatever the cause of the spark - it had to be hot and very dry to make a flame.
A keyboard WTF- way to go Proton.
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Your reply is fair enough, I was just adding the response. Yes I saw it, TO ME he is leaning heavily on the natural cause, I'm not saying he's right or wrong. Debunking one Chilean photo doesn't debunk the intentional cause anymore than debunking one EM photo of a virus prove no virus has been found. The whole story needs to be reviewed and he does not do that, and has not waited for the scientific and other forensic analysis to come in (assuming it is allowed to be analyzed in a timely and thorough fashion). That's it for now!
Certainly their emergency preparedness procedures were lacking. I do not see this necessarily as a funding issue. I see it as incompetence. Why weren't there fire drills?
Then your a fool. ( To think that DEW has to be a space based alien weapons system )
Days before the fire locals were doing videos showing raining aluminum foil powder from the sky
On the day of fire all they would need is a microwave equipped plane to fly over and and generate a high-power microwave RF and "BOOM" all that aluminum would explode just like "THERMITE" which burns at 4500F, hot enough to melt all metals
..
I agree space lasers and this dumb photo are bullshit, but the aluminum foil did rain down all over the area days before the fires;
...
People like you shouldn't even write about DEW - Direct Energy Weapons, because you think its alien technology from space, this is stuff that has been around since pre WW2 when USA developed RADAR, which is just high-frequency RF waves, and even in 1940's they knew that High-Power RF would cause aluminum&magnesium powders on the ground to violently explode and even make steel hot enough to burn
Have you ever ran an oxy-acetelyene torch and burned "IRON" It burns just like paper when hot enough
https://rumble.com/v36dyl2-maui-fires-directed-energy-weapons-and-geoengineering.html
Here is the video, watch it, they don't know what they're seeing but what they're explaining is all the weird things leading up to the big fire day. In this video you can clearly see the aluminum-foil powder falling on the car windows while driving in town
...
Experiment, take a handful of aluminum, but in a high speed coffee grinder and make into a 'white powder' not put on a piece of paper in the microwave and turn on, you will get an explosion not enough to blow the door off the microwave, but a large burst flames;
Now imagine an entire town dusted with this shit, and a plane flys over with high-powered microwave, and all that material ignites, and recall that when it mixes with iron-oxide(rust power), or silicon-oxide (sand) it can form "THERMITE", the winds could have led to 'drifts' of material so when it was ignited there would have been hot-spots with continous burning.
How to make 'thermite' from beach sand&alum powder and destroy a city.
...
How to make "THERMITE" explosive with aluminum-powder & beach-sand: How to ignite it and destroy your own home, country, or whatever
Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone
Days before the fire locals were doing videos showing rain aluminum foil powder from the sky
On the day of fire all they would need is a microwave equipped plane to fly over and and generate a high-power microwave RF and "BOOM" all that aluminum would explode just like "THERMITE" which burns at 4500F, (2200C) hot enough to melt all metals
..
I agree space lasers and this dumb photo are bullshit, but the aluminum foil did rain down all over the area days before the fires;
...
People like you shouldn't even write about DEW - Direct Energy Weapons, because you think its alien technology from space, this is stuff that has been around since pre WW2 when USA developed RADAR, which is just high-frequency RF waves, and even in 1940's they knew that High-Power RF would cause aluminum&magnesium powders on the ground to violently explode and even make steel hot enough to burn
Have you ever ran an oxy-acetelyene torch and burned "IRON" It burns just like paper when hot enough
https://rumble.com/v36dyl2-maui-fires-directed-energy-weapons-and-geoengineering.html
Here is the video, watch it, they don't know what they're seeing but what they're explaining is all the weird things leading up to the big fire day. In this video you can clearly see the aluminum-foil powder falling on the car windows while driving in town
...
Experiment, take a handful of aluminum, but in a high speed coffee grinder and make into a 'white powder' not put on a piece of paper in the microwave and turn on, you will get an explosion not enough to blow the door off the microwave, but a large burst flames;
Now imagine an entire town dusted with this shit, and a plane flys over with high-powered microwave, and all that material ignites, and recall that when it mixes with iron-oxide(rust power), or silicon-oxide (sand) it can form "THERMITE", the winds could have led to 'drifts' of material so when it was ignited there would have been hot-spots with continous burning.
...
Maui Fires - Directed Energy Weapons and Geoengineering
The destruction and loss of life that occurred on 8/8/2023 on Maui is simply too devastating to be passed off as “natural”. The truth is this was far from natural! In this video I will explain why I b
Silicon-Dioxide ( common beach sand ) in powder form from winds, combined with aluminum powder like dusted on Maui day before the fire becomes “THERMITE” an explosive that is so hot when its burning that it melts steel and burns it.
Experiment: Silicon Dioxide Thermite
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The silicon dioxide I used was common beach sand. ... ground it down to a finer powder in a mortar and pestile, and mixed it into thermite.
So many lives lost! It is a horrible tragedy that should never have happened.
How can you or anyone say water was not available - when the Pacific Ocean was feet away? What is the harm of using salt water to extinguish a fire? Why waste the potable water supply?
Thermite, a mixture of metal powder and metal oxide, is the hottest burning man-made substance in the world. It burns at temperatures of more than 2,200C, enough to burn through steel or asphalt. On human flesh, it can burn down to the bone
...
The corpses found in Lahina, most of them all the tissue was burnt to the bone, including the bones, like the sweet LV pig said "You could walk around town and be stepping on somebody and not even know it".
I agree that these corpses should have a chemical analysis, bet that won't happen though. All and more of the analyses in my top post should be done full stop.
Another angle:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/16/the-real-cause-of-the-maui-wildfire-disaster/
Threw out any semblance of credibility when you threw in the "climate change" boogeyman.
Furthermore, none of this explains why they chose a Californian as their police chief, over 4 native candidates, waived the 1 year residency requirement, paid his $50k moving expenses, and gave him a 29% raise after only a few months! Nor does it excuse his rude, insubordinant refusal to answer questions.
And why did government jerks hinder relief efforts?
Etc.
of course it stinks, I said that. mY point is in clown world the conspiracy of the goveneror and the blocked roads etc is given as much air and it's flames are being fanned by MSM as their own alleged 'factual' reporting. The two worlds have collided. They are the same world. Climate change (which is not to blame it can't cause fires) is not the bogeyman, pictures of transformers in Chile proving that DEWs in Maui are enforcing 15 minutes cities are.