It always cracks me up when I hear these 'health' gurus waxing lyrical about the benefits of 'grass fed beef' . How many of them realize that the idyllic pastures in which these cattle spend these lives grazing are saturated with the herbicide grazon, which is even more lethal than roundup. Put grazon on your garden and it will kill it for a decade whereas with roundup it will recover after a year or so.
Gazon gets into the fat of the animal and it is almost impossible not to ingest it if you are eating grass fed meat.
If you have to eat meat, which I don't advice, you are probably better eating factory farmed corn fed animals.
I would like to see evidence of your claims. The evidence I have seen is that red meat is a healthy part of the human diet and always has been. I have seen research that shows that lowering carbohydrates and increasing proteins and animal fats lowers cholesterol and also reduces the risk of diabetes. This research is by a university professor who is NOT sponsored. I think there is an anti-meat agenda and as far as I can understand the move in diets is to vegan and vegetarian diets and not the other way round. On a personal note when I lowered carbs and increased animal fats my cholesterol levels lowered, and it also lowers blood pressure. Of course people are having strokes at a young age since Covid injectable products were launched and of course it may be that these victims of big pharma are gas lighted into thinking it is their diet - making them likely to move from a healthy diet to a less healthy diet. Almost everything we have been told about diet is wrong. Of course that does not mean that I think that pastures should not be contaminated with products. I eat beef from the Yorkshire Dales - highland cattle - and they are reared on the highlands and I’ve seen the herd feeding. It is hardly the sort of land that is treated with herbicides and indeed the farmer recognised that cattle like a mixed diet of grass and other greenery.
Hiya I notice that you don't link to this evidence, and also note that you say red meat can be part of a healthy diet (a small amount of flesh as flavouring has never been shown to cause harm) but the majority of studies show that the more fruits, veg, legumes and nuts the healthier and more animal based the unhealthier.
The studies on lowering cholesterol and type 2 diabetes with low carb diets do not compare them with. whole food plant based diets. Carbs can be refined sugars or whole grains, yes of course lowering sugar and refined grains is beneficial.
But in any case my post was about only eating red meat and carnivore channels themselves document huge increases in cholesterol and constipation. The link between cholesterol and heart disease is refutable. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/of-course-statins-dont-work-cholesterol The underlined work stroke is a link to red meat and increased stroke risk. The people on the carnivore diets are people in the freedom movement who think as you do that there's an anti meat agenda to benefit big broccoli, so are not the ones vaccinated.
The underlined word biodiversity shows that holistic management of cattle does not improve biodiversity nor soils and the word magically to a thorough debunking of the claim that it is carbon negative or neutral.
What about the eco-push in the US to take away gas stoves, heating, cars, all other appliances? The US government is pushing climate change aggressively to make money here and control us.
The US push for electric cars is absurd. If 25% of cars were electric the grid would collapse. And most of their electricity comes from coal. A fossil fuel. In BC we have hydro power. But...not at night. The US coal electric plants can’t store the electricity and they can only ramp down. They can’t shut it off. What happens is the US sells its coal fired power to BC at cheap rates at night. Cheaper than it costs for BC to run its hydro plants. BC proud greenies with their impractical Teslas plug in at night for the cheap rates - and are thereby coal fueled. Very green!
It's one of those things with human beings that when we decide to fix something we can get so caught up with doing something about the problem that we barely notice that it's not the right solution and that we may be actually making things worse. I've done this a number of times in my own life. I'm finally learning to move more slowly and observe the consequences closely. Not only am I doing less harm to myself, but I'm calmer.
I am a real estate developer. New usually means you tear it out either six months later or worse...ten tears later. Very few new ideas stand the test of time. We tread very carefully vis a vis new ideas. Buildings disintegrating ten years out is a disaster.
William, I remember many years ago, meeting a young lady in the south of France. She invited me to the family home for dinner. Three generations had lived in that house that was over 100 years old. Almost unimaginable in the US today. And visiting a church in St Emilion that was over 2,000 years old. At the time I was a RE broker. I came back to the States with a new perspective after that.
So true Decaf. Platforms like this and dialogue in the chat is how we get to a better understanding of "sensible". One of my favorite podcasts is Darkhorse. Whether you agree with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, their willingness to engage in debate and be open to "being wrong" is what we need more of, much, much more of. Thanks.
This cannot be stressed enough. The fact is that no matter how many facts we have, we don't KNOW when it comes to future events. We can't know the role of random factors that come into play at a later date. I bet things don't play out as we expect most times, but I don't keep track.:)
Just opened the podcast and will check it out when I get the chance. Thanks.
Great. I hope you enjoy them. I'd also suggest listening to discussions about Bayesian Vs. Frequentism statistical analysis. Hard for a lay person (like me) but still interesting enough to understand how we might get to a better understanding of probability of outcomes. A priori vs a posteriori . Fascinating stuff.
If a change requires subsidies forever it isn’t sustainable. The only change that works is one that is economically feasible. If a government subsidizes electric cars and one thinks ‘it is worth it, even if we have to do it forever’ one has to then say ‘and if we have to sacrifice good medical care or good education, as we are spending dollars on Teslas, then it is still worth it’. Or is it? I like my Porsche. An ICE car. I like to drive and I don’t want to plan a trip around 45 minute waits for a charger to come free. And then spend another hour charging. However, I don’t like $2.25 a litre gas. Give me a battery car that can be charged in five minutes anywhere and I am in. Until that happens and until we triple the size of the grid, through nuclear, then electric cars are toys for rich boys.
It always cracks me up when I hear these 'health' gurus waxing lyrical about the benefits of 'grass fed beef' . How many of them realize that the idyllic pastures in which these cattle spend these lives grazing are saturated with the herbicide grazon, which is even more lethal than roundup. Put grazon on your garden and it will kill it for a decade whereas with roundup it will recover after a year or so.
Gazon gets into the fat of the animal and it is almost impossible not to ingest it if you are eating grass fed meat.
If you have to eat meat, which I don't advice, you are probably better eating factory farmed corn fed animals.
I didn't know that, thank you
I would like to see evidence of your claims. The evidence I have seen is that red meat is a healthy part of the human diet and always has been. I have seen research that shows that lowering carbohydrates and increasing proteins and animal fats lowers cholesterol and also reduces the risk of diabetes. This research is by a university professor who is NOT sponsored. I think there is an anti-meat agenda and as far as I can understand the move in diets is to vegan and vegetarian diets and not the other way round. On a personal note when I lowered carbs and increased animal fats my cholesterol levels lowered, and it also lowers blood pressure. Of course people are having strokes at a young age since Covid injectable products were launched and of course it may be that these victims of big pharma are gas lighted into thinking it is their diet - making them likely to move from a healthy diet to a less healthy diet. Almost everything we have been told about diet is wrong. Of course that does not mean that I think that pastures should not be contaminated with products. I eat beef from the Yorkshire Dales - highland cattle - and they are reared on the highlands and I’ve seen the herd feeding. It is hardly the sort of land that is treated with herbicides and indeed the farmer recognised that cattle like a mixed diet of grass and other greenery.
Hiya I notice that you don't link to this evidence, and also note that you say red meat can be part of a healthy diet (a small amount of flesh as flavouring has never been shown to cause harm) but the majority of studies show that the more fruits, veg, legumes and nuts the healthier and more animal based the unhealthier.
The studies on lowering cholesterol and type 2 diabetes with low carb diets do not compare them with. whole food plant based diets. Carbs can be refined sugars or whole grains, yes of course lowering sugar and refined grains is beneficial.
But in any case my post was about only eating red meat and carnivore channels themselves document huge increases in cholesterol and constipation. The link between cholesterol and heart disease is refutable. https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/of-course-statins-dont-work-cholesterol The underlined work stroke is a link to red meat and increased stroke risk. The people on the carnivore diets are people in the freedom movement who think as you do that there's an anti meat agenda to benefit big broccoli, so are not the ones vaccinated.
I go into the misleading claims of the industry funded Weston A Price foundation here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/claims-of-weston-a-price-which-are
the reverse psychology of making us think there is an anti meat agenda here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/should-we-assume-smoking-is-now-good the health benefits of the meditarrean diet being despite not becuase of fatty fish here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/fatty-fish-consumption-and-cvd
some information about how industry delibebertley misleads here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/whats-the-best-diet
The underlined word biodiversity shows that holistic management of cattle does not improve biodiversity nor soils and the word magically to a thorough debunking of the claim that it is carbon negative or neutral.
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What about the eco-push in the US to take away gas stoves, heating, cars, all other appliances? The US government is pushing climate change aggressively to make money here and control us.
The US push for electric cars is absurd. If 25% of cars were electric the grid would collapse. And most of their electricity comes from coal. A fossil fuel. In BC we have hydro power. But...not at night. The US coal electric plants can’t store the electricity and they can only ramp down. They can’t shut it off. What happens is the US sells its coal fired power to BC at cheap rates at night. Cheaper than it costs for BC to run its hydro plants. BC proud greenies with their impractical Teslas plug in at night for the cheap rates - and are thereby coal fueled. Very green!
yep electric cars are the great marketing for the virtual signalling mask wearers https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/do-anti-vaxx-and-climate-denial-have?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Indeed.
It's one of those things with human beings that when we decide to fix something we can get so caught up with doing something about the problem that we barely notice that it's not the right solution and that we may be actually making things worse. I've done this a number of times in my own life. I'm finally learning to move more slowly and observe the consequences closely. Not only am I doing less harm to myself, but I'm calmer.
I am a real estate developer. New usually means you tear it out either six months later or worse...ten tears later. Very few new ideas stand the test of time. We tread very carefully vis a vis new ideas. Buildings disintegrating ten years out is a disaster.
William, I remember many years ago, meeting a young lady in the south of France. She invited me to the family home for dinner. Three generations had lived in that house that was over 100 years old. Almost unimaginable in the US today. And visiting a church in St Emilion that was over 2,000 years old. At the time I was a RE broker. I came back to the States with a new perspective after that.
We don't reflect enough across the board, it seems!
Extremism from the fringes doesn't invalidate the movement toward SENSIBLE change.
True, but the word "sensible" can mean many things to many people.
So true Decaf. Platforms like this and dialogue in the chat is how we get to a better understanding of "sensible". One of my favorite podcasts is Darkhorse. Whether you agree with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, their willingness to engage in debate and be open to "being wrong" is what we need more of, much, much more of. Thanks.
This cannot be stressed enough. The fact is that no matter how many facts we have, we don't KNOW when it comes to future events. We can't know the role of random factors that come into play at a later date. I bet things don't play out as we expect most times, but I don't keep track.:)
Just opened the podcast and will check it out when I get the chance. Thanks.
Great. I hope you enjoy them. I'd also suggest listening to discussions about Bayesian Vs. Frequentism statistical analysis. Hard for a lay person (like me) but still interesting enough to understand how we might get to a better understanding of probability of outcomes. A priori vs a posteriori . Fascinating stuff.
If a change requires subsidies forever it isn’t sustainable. The only change that works is one that is economically feasible. If a government subsidizes electric cars and one thinks ‘it is worth it, even if we have to do it forever’ one has to then say ‘and if we have to sacrifice good medical care or good education, as we are spending dollars on Teslas, then it is still worth it’. Or is it? I like my Porsche. An ICE car. I like to drive and I don’t want to plan a trip around 45 minute waits for a charger to come free. And then spend another hour charging. However, I don’t like $2.25 a litre gas. Give me a battery car that can be charged in five minutes anywhere and I am in. Until that happens and until we triple the size of the grid, through nuclear, then electric cars are toys for rich boys.
100%
Thanks. It always helps to learn.:)
Axiomatic!