People seem to forget that totalitarians/authoritarians love to co-opt any and every issue that does actually matter and twist it to fit their agenda. The war on terror was perfect for TPTB because they no longer had to use false flags to initiate military aggression. Now the "enemy" could be anyone, anywhere. Climate change is even better. Take the problem of environmental destruction and poisoning of our land, air, and water and turn it into a ridiculous war against CO2. Now you don't even need an enemy. Anytime the weather isn't cool and calm, you can demand that people give up their sovereignty and submit to everything from CBDC's to surveillance all in the name of trying to change the weather.
It's going to be a bit of a tightrope walk to be able to continue fighting for the environment while distancing ourselves from power structures such as the WEF and WHO. I do think more people are starting to get the nuance of these issues and not be one of the extremes of either a Green Nazi or an apathetic carnivore.
Thank you yes absolutely. I have been thinking, a lot of people are talking of the demonising of co2 and the war against it. It is of course the greenhouse effect of gases in the atmosphere trapping the heat, It's not carbon per se its the chopping down of trees that sucks up the carbon and the burning of wood and 'fossil' fuel that puts co2 back in the atmosphere. That's what we were taught at school but does't seem to be much a part of the conversation. It's dumbed down to carbon somehow being toxic.
I'm still not totally convinced that there isn't some merit to the theory- and temperatures are getting really hot in some places!
As to the power structures in the Tufty Club (the WEF) I think, there's been a lot of nonsense written about them, they've become cartoon villains and YNH is not 'chief adviser' to Klaus for instance, they always follow the money. It may not always be completely obvious or face value, as we saw with IVM, banning it and demonising something created a market for it. Your extremes of Green Nazi and apathetic carnivore sum it up well. The media fed to these demographics sensationalised news and tell these identities what they want to hear and create hatred of their 'opposites' for clicks. Yes the WEF are using real issues, the also talk about social equality- but we don't get accused of being controlled by them so much if we agree with this.
The WHO is a bit different. Yes they were completely wrong about viruses and vaccines and are making a power grab, but it's still all about money.
But the creation of the 'climate change' stick to beat people with is not the fault of the scientists- they have to study sexy topics to get funding- so the unsexy gets more and more ignored. I don't think it's a grand conspiracy.
I'm not sure that people will give up their sovereignty for weather change in the way they did for their own immediate personal safety from a 'virus'. I think it's a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - the more we look at them waiting for them to control us, the more likely it is. Distracting ourselves from a bloody great actual war against pro multipolar Russia, and soon China. We've been fed this story of smart cities and total group so we get up in arms about the future 'they' have planned and go on anti-taxation for car driving marches- while allowing our governments to give $billions of our taxes to the elites, fascists and the military industrial complex- further destroying the environment in the process- I think the conspiracy of climate control is to divide us but also to distract us.
It's the current "Big Thing" for everyone to rally around and enjoy group-fear together again.
At this point I am ready to burst out laughing if anyone brings it up. I heard about Watt's Up With That? about 5 months ago, and now every day is a happy climate-fears debunked day.
Unlike with the corona, more people are aware of this new set of lies. I hope this trend of diminished credulity continues its upward trajectory steadily.
I'm inclined to believe that "climate change" is a phoney story, and yes like COVID was a phoney story. It was created for a reason, and discovering that reason is worthwhile. One person I read suggests it is to cover up peak oil and the implications for the oil companies. I am not familiar with that story, but now believe it worth understanding. Perhaps a useful rule of thumb is who benefits?
On the AIDS/ HIV connection, in The Real Anthony Fauci, Kennedy talks about how Peter Duesberg was destroyed for exposing that there was no connection. It was actually 'poppers' or amyl nitrite that was debilitating the immune systems of gay men. I talk about "the 1987 defunding of Peter Duesberg as the replacement of science and empirical data with the religion of profit-friendly woke-speak" in a pre-Substack episode called Conspiracy Theorist as the New Heretic: https://youtu.be/UJI1X7l48vM.
But I think it's also possible that gay men were deliberately infected with a virus that would be transmissible for a NYC study, and that a 'vaccine' in Africa also injected something that killed the people in the village and the Dutch health mission that administered it. I had some research on this on my radio episode from a decade ago called AIDS & Bioterrorism: http://www.radio4all.net/program/38711.
Hiya, yes, Duesberg was defunded for speaking out, but I disagree that there's any evidence for a virus anywhere. All the symptoms of AIDS are explained by the lifestyles of gay men in the 80s including since banned toxic brands of poppers, and by poverty and malnourishment. Even Montagnier said AIDS was both cured and prevented by good nutrition. The gay community at the time did not like their behaviour being blamed and the $trillion AIDS industry was born.
There is no evidence that a positive 'HIV' antibody test (which just shows some proteins also found in healthy people in smaller amounts, as well as in cancers and pregnancy) is 'transmissible' by sexual intercourse. The imbalance that a positive 'HIV' test indicates was only found to be correlated with the frequency of receptive anal intercourse in either sex. This can be explained by the thinness of the anus and the highly oxidising nature of semen.
Vaccines may well kill people but not because of a virus.
Wow, a substack writer amidwesterndoctor@substack.com, who normally writes about covid and medical ethics type of topics, took a foray into exactly what we were discussing.
A brilliant article whether or not I agree with all of it.
Thank you Benjamin, yes I saw it that and made some comments- just what we were discussing and a measured and fair article, though I don't agree with all of it either. At last someone with a big audience actually talking some sense! What he was saying about 'climate change' being a nebulous thing really helped me see how it's being used to cover up soil infertility and poverty etc etc.
I see more and more confused, exaggerated and sensationalised articles in 'medical freedom' about co2 and how the reset is controlling us. This is definitely what the demographic wants to hear and gets clicks. So we'll get more of it. Just like confused posts about enormous amounts of 'excess' deaths did.
I'm going to try and stop reading it. It's a bit of an addiction.
I guess your definition of climate change is different than mine. All those realities of so called modern civilization are integral to climate change obviously. How it’s addressed and marketed can be an additional area of denial.
Covid, no virus?!!! WTF. I guess the sun revolves around the earth and all those dead and buried and the medical caregivers were having a hallucination
Hiya, if you are really interested in the how those 'covid' patients died (more accurately killed by loneliness, forced ventilation, midazolam, remdesiver and end of life 'care') and why I say with confidence that there's no evidence that any symptoms are caused by a virus you could read this https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
I am not saying that the climate isn't changing, the temperatures aren't getting hotter nor that ecological collapse is not imminent. I am saying the marketing of 'climate change' focusing on carbon is a destructive money spinner
The fact that there are still people reacting in this way to the idea that pathogenic viruses do not exist and contagion is and always has been a myth... is evidence that we still have a lot of work to do educating the helplessly ignorant "true believers" out there that have never bothered to investigate the science of virology, the methodology followed in the studies claiming to find viruses and the lack of controls which if implemented properly would otherwise prove that so-called disease is happening for other reasons.
And real causes of disease and environmental destruction could be addressed. There is a huge financial vested interest in people not doing this!
I have got a bit used to not getting this reaction, I have stepped out of my echo chamber a bit today!
But I think rather than be sad that there are still believers we should be happy that we have seen some of the light and are on the path to more awakening
I still have sympathy for those who believe the virus and vaccine story. I was raised to believe these. I was taught in the schools, at home by my parents, and by the doctors my parents took me to. Why would a child doubt their adults?
It was only in my adult years that I read counter stories, met people with different beliefs, and began my own study (still limited to reading books). I have not attempted to verify scientific tests that have been claimed to prove certain medical theories, that is a bridge too far for me. But I read the arguments carefully.
We need compassion for our family and friends and neighbors who cannot bring themselves to doubt the official story. Such doubt is a bridge too far for many people. We sceptics are different only in our ability to cross that bridge.
Yes, we need to enable discussions, public and private, of the modern explanations of disease and to recognize and accept the lies we have been told. By "accept the lies" I do not mean agree with them and support them, but only to accept that we were lied to, while doubting the lies themselves and recognizing them as lies.
Only today, I had a conversation with the gas pump attendant who still believes that his boss is recovering/not recovering from a covid infection which began after he got the shots followed by multiple hospital visits to remove fibrous clots. Other locals got sick after taking the shots and are enduring similar treatment. My neighbor dropped dead suddenly not long ago. The rest have heart issues that were not present before 2021.
None of them will even suggest that the jabs may be the problem. They all repeat the mantras embedded in their brains by the msm. I feel like I'm in Invasion of the Bodysnatchers!
This is a war. The fact that most people still believe the govt propaganda means that we're losing and losing badly. If I dare to open my mouth on these topics I'm told to shut up and keep that sh*t to myself because people think you're crazy.
There is no gentle way around this. These people are going to point the finger at us when the time comes. And they'll do it with a tear in their eye, with compassion. Anything to save their own skins and to never have to admit how stupid and wrong they were. Unfortunately, that's a big chunk of human nature right there.
People seem to forget that totalitarians/authoritarians love to co-opt any and every issue that does actually matter and twist it to fit their agenda. The war on terror was perfect for TPTB because they no longer had to use false flags to initiate military aggression. Now the "enemy" could be anyone, anywhere. Climate change is even better. Take the problem of environmental destruction and poisoning of our land, air, and water and turn it into a ridiculous war against CO2. Now you don't even need an enemy. Anytime the weather isn't cool and calm, you can demand that people give up their sovereignty and submit to everything from CBDC's to surveillance all in the name of trying to change the weather.
It's going to be a bit of a tightrope walk to be able to continue fighting for the environment while distancing ourselves from power structures such as the WEF and WHO. I do think more people are starting to get the nuance of these issues and not be one of the extremes of either a Green Nazi or an apathetic carnivore.
Nice take!
Thank you yes absolutely. I have been thinking, a lot of people are talking of the demonising of co2 and the war against it. It is of course the greenhouse effect of gases in the atmosphere trapping the heat, It's not carbon per se its the chopping down of trees that sucks up the carbon and the burning of wood and 'fossil' fuel that puts co2 back in the atmosphere. That's what we were taught at school but does't seem to be much a part of the conversation. It's dumbed down to carbon somehow being toxic.
I'm still not totally convinced that there isn't some merit to the theory- and temperatures are getting really hot in some places!
As to the power structures in the Tufty Club (the WEF) I think, there's been a lot of nonsense written about them, they've become cartoon villains and YNH is not 'chief adviser' to Klaus for instance, they always follow the money. It may not always be completely obvious or face value, as we saw with IVM, banning it and demonising something created a market for it. Your extremes of Green Nazi and apathetic carnivore sum it up well. The media fed to these demographics sensationalised news and tell these identities what they want to hear and create hatred of their 'opposites' for clicks. Yes the WEF are using real issues, the also talk about social equality- but we don't get accused of being controlled by them so much if we agree with this.
The WHO is a bit different. Yes they were completely wrong about viruses and vaccines and are making a power grab, but it's still all about money.
But the creation of the 'climate change' stick to beat people with is not the fault of the scientists- they have to study sexy topics to get funding- so the unsexy gets more and more ignored. I don't think it's a grand conspiracy.
I'm not sure that people will give up their sovereignty for weather change in the way they did for their own immediate personal safety from a 'virus'. I think it's a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - the more we look at them waiting for them to control us, the more likely it is. Distracting ourselves from a bloody great actual war against pro multipolar Russia, and soon China. We've been fed this story of smart cities and total group so we get up in arms about the future 'they' have planned and go on anti-taxation for car driving marches- while allowing our governments to give $billions of our taxes to the elites, fascists and the military industrial complex- further destroying the environment in the process- I think the conspiracy of climate control is to divide us but also to distract us.
It's the current "Big Thing" for everyone to rally around and enjoy group-fear together again.
At this point I am ready to burst out laughing if anyone brings it up. I heard about Watt's Up With That? about 5 months ago, and now every day is a happy climate-fears debunked day.
Unlike with the corona, more people are aware of this new set of lies. I hope this trend of diminished credulity continues its upward trajectory steadily.
I'm inclined to believe that "climate change" is a phoney story, and yes like COVID was a phoney story. It was created for a reason, and discovering that reason is worthwhile. One person I read suggests it is to cover up peak oil and the implications for the oil companies. I am not familiar with that story, but now believe it worth understanding. Perhaps a useful rule of thumb is who benefits?
On the AIDS/ HIV connection, in The Real Anthony Fauci, Kennedy talks about how Peter Duesberg was destroyed for exposing that there was no connection. It was actually 'poppers' or amyl nitrite that was debilitating the immune systems of gay men. I talk about "the 1987 defunding of Peter Duesberg as the replacement of science and empirical data with the religion of profit-friendly woke-speak" in a pre-Substack episode called Conspiracy Theorist as the New Heretic: https://youtu.be/UJI1X7l48vM.
But I think it's also possible that gay men were deliberately infected with a virus that would be transmissible for a NYC study, and that a 'vaccine' in Africa also injected something that killed the people in the village and the Dutch health mission that administered it. I had some research on this on my radio episode from a decade ago called AIDS & Bioterrorism: http://www.radio4all.net/program/38711.
Hiya, yes, Duesberg was defunded for speaking out, but I disagree that there's any evidence for a virus anywhere. All the symptoms of AIDS are explained by the lifestyles of gay men in the 80s including since banned toxic brands of poppers, and by poverty and malnourishment. Even Montagnier said AIDS was both cured and prevented by good nutrition. The gay community at the time did not like their behaviour being blamed and the $trillion AIDS industry was born.
There is no evidence that a positive 'HIV' antibody test (which just shows some proteins also found in healthy people in smaller amounts, as well as in cancers and pregnancy) is 'transmissible' by sexual intercourse. The imbalance that a positive 'HIV' test indicates was only found to be correlated with the frequency of receptive anal intercourse in either sex. This can be explained by the thinness of the anus and the highly oxidising nature of semen.
Vaccines may well kill people but not because of a virus.
https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom
Here's my homage to the Perth Group and demolition of HIV/AIDS theory
Jo xxx
Agreed. In looking back on the radio episode I realized some of my views had changed on infectious viruses. Thanks for keeping me honest ;-)
You're very welcome! ☺️
Wow, a substack writer amidwesterndoctor@substack.com, who normally writes about covid and medical ethics type of topics, took a foray into exactly what we were discussing.
A brilliant article whether or not I agree with all of it.
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/how-the-war-on-climate-change-destroyed?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=748806&post_id=120814735&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Thank you Benjamin, yes I saw it that and made some comments- just what we were discussing and a measured and fair article, though I don't agree with all of it either. At last someone with a big audience actually talking some sense! What he was saying about 'climate change' being a nebulous thing really helped me see how it's being used to cover up soil infertility and poverty etc etc.
I see more and more confused, exaggerated and sensationalised articles in 'medical freedom' about co2 and how the reset is controlling us. This is definitely what the demographic wants to hear and gets clicks. So we'll get more of it. Just like confused posts about enormous amounts of 'excess' deaths did.
I'm going to try and stop reading it. It's a bit of an addiction.
Step away from the computer!!!
🙏🏽
I guess your definition of climate change is different than mine. All those realities of so called modern civilization are integral to climate change obviously. How it’s addressed and marketed can be an additional area of denial.
Covid, no virus?!!! WTF. I guess the sun revolves around the earth and all those dead and buried and the medical caregivers were having a hallucination
Hiya, if you are really interested in the how those 'covid' patients died (more accurately killed by loneliness, forced ventilation, midazolam, remdesiver and end of life 'care') and why I say with confidence that there's no evidence that any symptoms are caused by a virus you could read this https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
covid was a pandemic of useless testing https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/there-is-no-covid
I am not saying that the climate isn't changing, the temperatures aren't getting hotter nor that ecological collapse is not imminent. I am saying the marketing of 'climate change' focusing on carbon is a destructive money spinner
The fact that there are still people reacting in this way to the idea that pathogenic viruses do not exist and contagion is and always has been a myth... is evidence that we still have a lot of work to do educating the helplessly ignorant "true believers" out there that have never bothered to investigate the science of virology, the methodology followed in the studies claiming to find viruses and the lack of controls which if implemented properly would otherwise prove that so-called disease is happening for other reasons.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/CivTSuEjw6Qp/
And real causes of disease and environmental destruction could be addressed. There is a huge financial vested interest in people not doing this!
I have got a bit used to not getting this reaction, I have stepped out of my echo chamber a bit today!
But I think rather than be sad that there are still believers we should be happy that we have seen some of the light and are on the path to more awakening
🙏🏽
Glass half full. Got it!
🥃🍺🍷 (cordial, I'm tee total) x
I still have sympathy for those who believe the virus and vaccine story. I was raised to believe these. I was taught in the schools, at home by my parents, and by the doctors my parents took me to. Why would a child doubt their adults?
It was only in my adult years that I read counter stories, met people with different beliefs, and began my own study (still limited to reading books). I have not attempted to verify scientific tests that have been claimed to prove certain medical theories, that is a bridge too far for me. But I read the arguments carefully.
We need compassion for our family and friends and neighbors who cannot bring themselves to doubt the official story. Such doubt is a bridge too far for many people. We sceptics are different only in our ability to cross that bridge.
Yes, we need to enable discussions, public and private, of the modern explanations of disease and to recognize and accept the lies we have been told. By "accept the lies" I do not mean agree with them and support them, but only to accept that we were lied to, while doubting the lies themselves and recognizing them as lies.
Only today, I had a conversation with the gas pump attendant who still believes that his boss is recovering/not recovering from a covid infection which began after he got the shots followed by multiple hospital visits to remove fibrous clots. Other locals got sick after taking the shots and are enduring similar treatment. My neighbor dropped dead suddenly not long ago. The rest have heart issues that were not present before 2021.
None of them will even suggest that the jabs may be the problem. They all repeat the mantras embedded in their brains by the msm. I feel like I'm in Invasion of the Bodysnatchers!
This is a war. The fact that most people still believe the govt propaganda means that we're losing and losing badly. If I dare to open my mouth on these topics I'm told to shut up and keep that sh*t to myself because people think you're crazy.
There is no gentle way around this. These people are going to point the finger at us when the time comes. And they'll do it with a tear in their eye, with compassion. Anything to save their own skins and to never have to admit how stupid and wrong they were. Unfortunately, that's a big chunk of human nature right there.
Thanks for proving that there are people with their heads so far up their ass that they wouldn’t know truth if it bit them in their ass