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Isaac Middle's avatar

Ffs it's just all so ridiculous... imaging an 80% killer virus into being coz you poisoned and terrorised a bunch of mice in cages. And all the Virus Pushers Against Clot Shotters are all over it coz Captain Kirsch says so. Sigh.

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Kirsten's avatar

J Couey has been making the same point - fear of lab created viruses is still coming from the narrative that will trap us and take away our freedoms (although he thinks viruses exists).

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hiya,

I've not heard of that person.

Virus-like particles may well exist, - and may even exchange information etc- it is only crucial at this moment in history to know whether entities that are infectious and can cause people to be ill exist.

Jo

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Kirsten's avatar

That's right, I didn't clarify about virus or virus particles.

He's been doing videos on twitch, and just got onto rumble under the name Gigaohm Biological. No matter what each video is about, he teaches about the complexity (and beauty) of the immune system. He doesn't want this knowledge to get lost and replaced by "antibody levels are all that is needed".

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Jo Waller's avatar

nice, I will look him up. I think antibody levels are only a tiny part of homeostasis and nothing to do with 'immunity' and have just been latched on to show that 'something' is happening when people are vaccinated, because the rest of cell cell communication including microbiome etc is so confusing, complex and indeed beautiful

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JG's avatar

They're manipulating something horribly deadly and yet they show all relaxed and smillling in the press photos.

Sometimes common sense is all you need.

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Jo Waller's avatar

yes, always common sense is all we need!

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Jenny Joy's avatar

Yup. Many excellent points here!

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Jo Waller's avatar

Thank you Jen xxx

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

You've probably seen these recent articles on James Lyons-Weiler's substack, all just in the last 2 weeks. I've included the titles with the links so that you can get the flavor without having to click the links. The bitter flavor may well be enough.

The amusing part is that his organization, the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge (IPAK), has just announced that it "Will Be Developing and Offering a Formal Course in Logic and Reason":

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/ipak-edu-will-be-developing-and-offering

Here's the list of articles:

"Is Geert Right? Let's Hope Not."

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/is-geert-right-lets-hope-not

"Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2"

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/endonuclease-fingerprint-indicates

"Science, Public Health Policy & the Law has Accepted Dr. Sin Hang Lee's Study of the Flaws of Non-Quantitative RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2…"

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/science-public-health-policy-and

Hammond Answers Cowan's "Five Simple Questions for Virologists" [how I found the Hammond post]

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/hammond-answers-five-simple-questions

"Astounding Discovery! Sanger Sequencing and Mass-Spectrometry Agree on SARS-CoV-2 Protein Sequences From NGS!"

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/astounding-discovery-sanger-sequencing

"Over 500,000 Pubmed articles mention "VIRUS" and "control group" or "control samples" or "negative control" or "positive control""

[This one was perhaps the silliest. I pointed out that a Pubmed search for "vaccines AND 'safe and effective'" gives almost 4000 results. So, it's settled then!]

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/over-500000-pubmed-articles-mention

"Pathogenic Priming, My Predicted Nightmare"

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/pathogenic-priming-my-predicted-nightmare

"SARS-CoV-2-like Spike Protein Sequences with Affinity to hACE2 Were Present in the Public Databases in 2005. Plus, a Hint on SARS-CoV-2…"

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-like-spike-protein-sequences

"Yet Another Final, Respectful Response to Virus Denialism."

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/yet-another-final-respectful-response

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hi Sanjoy, I've just seen this https://www.bitchute.com/video/HFoh3bpEVqEq/

Jo

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

That is great, many thanks.

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Jo Waller's avatar

It's painful to read isn't it.

It's coming from many sources, I generally ignore these people, but it's now very suspicious, for them all to have the same illogical and irrational massive blind spot

😎

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Similar fearmongering is the repetition in the "health freedom" community about ADE and how "all the ferrets died [when they were re-exposed to the alleged virus]." Having seen, thanks to your article, how rubbish the "80%" lethality figure is in this gain-of-fiction study, I now wonder about the oft-mentioned ferrets. Were they also just killed by the experimenter per study protocol? Or were they killed by the experimental vaccine itself, not due to exposure to any "virus" (but with the re-exposure explanation providing a way to hide the poisonous nature of the vaccine)?

I would like to read it for myself (very dangerous, could lead to conspiracy thinking and other mental derangements). Do you happen to know the reference to this study?

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Jo Waller's avatar

I think this is it https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7110120/ yes all the ferrets died...because as expected they were euthanised at 23 day post injection

would you like to do a post so I don't have to! I trust it will not send you insane....

Jo

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Ah, thanks. And I see you have already discussed it. Sorry, I didn’t see your reply until just now. The Substack notifications are only about 90% reliable for me.

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Jo Waller's avatar

I know I've heard someone else comment on the ferrets dying, they didn't die, but I can't remember who said or what the reason was. I will try and remember

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Pete Lincoln's avatar

Yet Omicron-infected mice with the same chemicals displayed little to no signs of clinical illness, while the health of those infected with WT and Omi-S rapidly deteriorated.

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Jo Waller's avatar

again study not blinded, not peer reviewed and not infected with omicron, wt etc; infected with cell culturre made with hundreds of different biologically active substances from people with different degrees of detox symptoms

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hi Pete, I very much recommend you watch this https://www.bitchute.com/video/HFoh3bpEVqEq/

The differences in the samples are as follows;

the patient sample of omicron did not harm any mice enough for euthanasia. There are no pathogens in the patient sample with a supposed viral disease.

The other two samples were lab made cultures of ‘WT’ and recombinant, which killed (ie euthanised by researchers observing weight loss and respiratory distress) 100% and 80% of mice, contained the known to be toxic to respiratory cells spike protein (made by stressing abnormal cells in culture) and toxic phenol red, which the patient sample did not.

The patient sample with alleged SARS 2 contained no spike protein or toxic substances. The lab made cultures which artificially produced proteins and which contained toxic phenol red did.

Jo

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Jo Waller's avatar

Than you for your comment Pete, I have significantly edited to make this point clearer.

Jo

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Another recent article in the recent flood of "viral" marketing (this one is from Jeremy Hammond):

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2022/10/17/answering-tom-cowans-five-simple-questions-for-virologists/

For pointing out the many gaps in his arguments, I'm now banned from Hammond's site too:

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2022/10/17/answering-tom-cowans-five-simple-questions-for-virologists/#comments/400829

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Jo Waller's avatar

this is getting insane!

I skimmed through Hammonds nonsense he is basically just saying the same thing over and over, controls were done, they weren't , we did sequence end to end, they didn't

well done for plugging away,

this 'virus denier' stuff, linking with holocaust denier etc is getting more and more vicious and feeling more orchestrated- and this is supposed to be a health freedom movement!

Jo

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

Yes, "virus denier" is definitely a term of propaganda, probably developed in Big Pharma/CDC/CIA (they're all the same) psyop labs.

Not all of the users of the smear are as intelligent though. Some Kool-Aid drinkers have started to "name and shame" people they term "vaccine deniers." I take it as a Freudian slip that vaccines are a holocaust.

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Jo Waller's avatar

yes well said

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