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David S's avatar

You would think Jo. But....I’m not hopeful. Maybe bc I see my Jewish community almost completely in support of Israel. I’m ashamed to call myself Jewish now. Even RFK who I admire still supports Israel. Politicians in this country, I think believe they cannot speak a word against Israel for fear of losing their jobs. I hope I’m wrong!!

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Jo Waller's avatar

My brother and mum are Christians who pray for and celebrate the 'return' of Jewish people to Israel. Shame on me for not realising that this meant the displacement of an Arab person, but shame on them for telling me that Arabs are dirty and don't look after homes. Now i realise they live in a concentration camp and the Israel state has destroyed its right to exist.

My brother and his organisation made a huge deal out of taking aid to Ukrainians (they are complelety brain dead to that too) but not a peep have i heard about humanitarian aid to Gazans.

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David S's avatar

I've read that fundamentalist Christians support the State of Israel because they believe that when Christ returns to the promised land, all Jews will see the true God and convert to Christianity. Can't say this is totally true but I believe it's a part of the reason Christians support the State of Israel. There is even a group called Jews for Christ in Israel.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes there is some second coming prophecy or something. I don't think being bigoted and supporting genocide will help Jews to see the true God but what do I know?

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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

The Jews will never accept Odin as the true ruler of the Universe.

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Jewish Loot and Neglected Fruit: How the Mainstream Right Serves Jews and Betrays Whites . . .

❝“Low-hanging fruit!” cry deluded right-wingers all over the West. “Why doesn’t my favored party on the mainstream right pluck that fruit and defeat the left?” Well, they’ve been crying that for decades and will still be crying it when the left pack them off to a slave-labor camp or an organic gas-chamber. Some of those right-wingers are too stupid to see the truth; some are too frightened to admit it. Their favored party on the mainstream right doesn’t pluck the low-hanging fruit because it doesn’t want to defeat the left. And it doesn’t want to defeat the left because it is the left. That is, it’s financed and controlled by Jews who support the left and its anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-Western agenda.❞

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2022/03/25/jewish-loot-and-neglected-fruit-how-the-mainstream-right-serves-jews-and-betrays-whites/

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Jo Waller's avatar

No, I am not hopeful for the future of the US,Israel and UK. I am hopeful for the multipolar world already introducing circular economies and using solar power.

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David S's avatar

Marc, I've written to a few podcasters who've been raking RFK over the coals over his views on Israel and the greater Middle East. I agree with you that he's "just having to play the game-for now". I truly hope this is the case and that he would bring a more balanced approach if he were president. Also, I'm glad you said Zionist societies. It's like the fundamentalist Christians in this country who would love to purge all the heretics from the US and make this a Christian country. But neither group, IMHO represent the majority of the citizens. I pray this is true.

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David S's avatar

Oh yes! Jeff Sharlett wrote a book about them called The Family. I've seen him interviewed. It's a well known "secret" in DC politics. Ha Ha! And they're linked to K street lobbyists. A real incestuous relationship between church and State. But what's new on that front. Its's been going on since Reagan. Robertson, Falwell, Reed etc etc. It's so ironic that these folks have been perpetrating evil (behind the scenes) for years here in the US and they're now calling Hamas evil. Well they are, but all extremists are. They need to be purged from all religions. At least Hamas was trying to fight for ALL Palestinians as far as I can tell. But I'm no expert. AND....they are the elected leaders of the people, for good or for bad.

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David S's avatar

I can't say I understand a lot about Hamas rule in Palestinian Gaza. It does appear they've kept power without elections. But like you said, how many countries, including my own really have "choices" in who governs us? And BIden? Oy Vey! The DNC is insane for holding onto him. He will almost definitely lose to Trump. My hope is that RFK Jr. will gain traction amongst independents and some R's to give him a chance at winning. Either way, I don't know that D or R will substantively change things in this country.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

It's all about power and wealth; i.e., resources. TPTB have demonstrated beyond doubt that the absolute last thing they care about is making people thrive. A thriving population is a threat to their wealth and power; hence their determined efforts to destroy any middle class, especially in wealthy countries. The U.S. and UK adopted an us-first and always mentality after WWII, controlled completely by the banking cartel, and they will pursue that goal by any means necessary. We are simply fodder, and now they're working hard to eliminate the vast majority of us. And it's still an unanswered question whether or not Russia and China are working for or against the NWO and the WEF. No one seems to know for certain. If they'r working with the WEF, the things they're doing with the BRI don't make sense; i.e., why help a population you're determined to eliminate? Bottom line: We never will know the truth about all this until it smacks us in the face.

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California Girl's avatar

I decided to blame the Zionist project in Israel on the British - they made partition possible, and then dumped the problems onto the UN. I've spent the day researching the history of Israel as a ME state, and remain frustrated that neither the UN nor anyone else has managed to stop the fighting by Isaraelis and the likes of Hamas (there is more than one military group involved). Why can't the Israelis just leave it alone, and live peacefully with their neighbors? Could it be this is all staged in order to extort money from the West?

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Funding Both Sides: How Jewish Money Controls British Politics . . .

“During the previous Labour government, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were ardent Zionists because they accepted the justice of Israel’s cause, not because Labour’s chief fund-raisers were first the Jew Michael Levy and then the Jew Jonathan Mendelsohn (both are now members of the House of Lords). And during the current Conservative government, David Cameron, Theresa May and Boris Johnson have been ardent Zionists because they too accept the justice of Israel’s cause, not because the Conservatives’ chief fund-raisers have been first the Jew Sir Mick Davis and then the Jew Sir Ehud Sheleg.”

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/10/04/funding-both-sides-how-jewish-money-controls-british-politics/

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