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The polio / DDT story is very powerful because it's so obvious. You can literally see the footage of them spraying it into people's faces on the sidewalk! And it makes sense. Blame 'the virus' to distract from the real culprit (insert industrial toxin here). It's also distant enough in history that people can look at it objectively.

I think people might be more willing to let go of the current 'virus' narrative (and virology in general) when they figure out we're not being assaulted by micro particles, but micro waves. It's the whole DDT story all over again, but with a different industrial toxin.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Thank you so much for reply. Yes, I think you are right. As of 2013 DDT seemed to be still used in India, banned for agricultural use, but still sprayed against some mosquitos in some places.

I find the virus narrative so frustrating and inexplicable in the face of pollution/pesticdes/toxins/poverty/obesity.

Though like you say blaming the the virus is deliberately done to distract from the industrial toxin.

The brilliant Nancy Turner Banks https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/aids-opium-diamonds-and-empire-by?s=w in her book argues this very thing; that HIV was invented to mask the health effects of allowing drugs to flood deprived parts of the US and of occupational diseases in black Africans in dust filled diamond mines in Africa.

Exactly the same is happening now with COVID nonsense. My only question with chem trails and 5G etc (I'm sure they are harmful) is how do they stop them affecting the elites?

Thanks again, looking forward to you posts!

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California Girl's avatar

Blaming the virus is a jobs program! That's why it is so successful. And all the imprisonment stuff and censorship is a way to keep the public from realizing the lie.

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Decaf's avatar

Regarding the elites and 5G, maybe they do ethernet and have covers for their phones, etc. And maybe they don’t live near towers (or at least 50 ft away.) I think it’s the closest waves that are the worst. They may have access to blood transfusions, daily massage, and other detoxing strategies. Plus, although at the deepest level I think these are the most fearful people of all, that level of fear may take the longest to injure someone, while they are spared the effects of the daily onslaught of fear via propaganda that the rest of us are subject to. We still have no idea of the cumulative effects of fear vs other more physical toxins.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes, all very valid and well made points.

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Decaf's avatar

There are so many layers that the planners are working on. It’s like an intricate computer game, with switches, like in a maze, for “off” and “on” for all possible levels a person may perceive on. All the permissible arguments were carved out for us: to mask or not, HCQ/Ivermectin vs ventilator, lockdown or not, vax or not, but I noticed about 6 months ago that the one thing we were not even allowed to consider was contagious or not. This was way before I came across the substack. And it was somsimple they way the did it. It had the opacity of dogma. I suppose that’s why I’m still tossing these thoughts around.

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Jo Waller's avatar

you've hit the nail on the head. that's the one thing we're not allowed to talk about, or even consider like you say- contagion- so I think we must be on to something.

Opacity of dogma - I haven't heard that before- so eloquent and damning!

In the narrative there is something for everyone to latch on to and debate ad infinitum (or ad nauseam!) - I would add human- made/ lab leak vs natural but virus vs no virus is not on the table- unless you want a permanent ban from twitter.

I was reading my diary just now from June 2021 saying how addicted to twitter I was and how much I didn't like it! then the universe got me banned from it under a year later!

🙏🏽

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California Girl's avatar

Remember: contagion is just as real as viruses. Not.

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Decaf's avatar

Exactly. I only mentioned my thought to one person, the most extreme person I know. Even he could not deal with the question. So I never spoke of it again. And I was in no way thinking viruses were not real, just that this was a rigid invincible thing that was being pushed forward. I thank Shepard Smith for this. He overplayed the delivery.

More things falling into place just now. I did NAET treatments for 11 years for hundreds of allergies. In the final analysis, I came to the conclusion that a healthy psyche (all levels of the human being need to come into play for this) is the best detoxification system, doing the work of allergy treatments, etc. And my allergist told me that even bone on bone cause no pain if the chi is not blocked. Mind you, this takes everything to achieve in its fullness, but even efforts take one a long way. Plus, just knowing something is a lie can help one not succumb, i.e., the elites know there’s no danger. The cell towers may be controllable to a great degree; we don’t really know. So while they are not healthy in the sense that anyone sane would consider healthy, they are not damaged by the things that damage us.

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Janet's avatar

I can’t tell you how disturbing it is now to learn that almost everything promoted is a lie. I have spent the last year having my world drop out from under me. I was cynical and suspicious early on in the Covid scamdemic but to think that we will be guided into body and mind servitude by a made up nothing is beyond belief but then I think of so many wars started on lies and nothing—Iraq comes to mind first. Greed outright evil. Well, they won’t get my body or my mind if I can help it. I’m 74. There is a greedy death cult in charge now.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hiya, Janet,

I also think it important keep body and mind, and also our souls. The past 2 years have brought into sharp focus the joint purpose of education, allopathic medicine, central government, news and social media; which is to separate us from them, so that the profit algorithm can control us.

Our abusers, who have themselves undoubtedly been abused and who are also subjects to the algorithm, are almost completely severed from their souls.

The path set before us is not to lose ours.

Jo

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Janet's avatar

Jo, Definitely. Last summer I realized where this was coming from. The spiritual warfare being waged. I returned to God. He Who fits each of us with a soul and safeguards our souls. I have received a true peace that I can’t explain. It helps me during the utter dangerous nonsense ramping up daily.

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Jo Waller's avatar

It is so lovely to hear that. I think the same is happening to a lot of people. Maybe this is all happening so that we do find peace and our true selves.

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Len Kinder's avatar

I call the ruling class the Beast, which is what I think the Bible means. And I believe these are the End Times for the Beast. I don't go for conventional religion, but I think the Bible New Testament has good guidance. I have a substack at https://acts15church.substack.com/

I'm also trying to figure out the vax situation at https://ilki.substack.com/p/is-microbiology-real and https://ilki.substack.com/p/vax-questions-for-experts/comments as I want to know what to recommend to family, acquaintances and strangers for their health.

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Kelliann's avatar

Yep, we will prevail or go down fighting!!

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Mystic William's avatar

I worked in my alternative health practice with a group of AIDS sufferers. I raised this as a possibility. It was not heard well. This was 25 years ago.

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coords1306's avatar

I'll say this. One time I was asked how it is I know when I'm sick versus I know its just allergies. I think the person asking assumed my answer was 'yes, I could clearly tell the difference'. But no, not really. I know when i have a fever versus just a runny nose but I can't tell when my throat is off because I'm in a bed and breakfast versus I have the start of step throat. I did allergy shots because I lived with a cat and it caused asthma for me. The concept of allergy shots isn't one that fits nice and neatly next to vaccines. In the former you are trying to numb the body to a external agent it is overreacting to. In the latter you are trying do the opposite, have your body more ready to react strongly to it. It seems there are contradictions all around when you start looking.

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Jo Waller's avatar

did the allergy shots or the cat give you asthma? or both?

I think allergies are to do with dysbiois in the gut, skin or lungs. If the microbes are wiped out by antibiotics during development the body doesn't develop appropriate relationships with invaders into the lung, such as dander, and has a reaction that would be appropriate for something that was toxic. Allergy shots aren't gonna help.

Vaccines making the body react more strongly to a thing I think is only to show a reaction, that it's working, and to boost antibody levels, the only surrogate marker they have, cos there are no other ways to show vaccines 'work', cos they don't.

Interesting.

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coords1306's avatar

I had asthma I believe due to being allergic to the cat. So I got shots predominantly for cat allergies. I was never 100% sure it was just the cat but he passed away a few years ago and sure enough my need for an inhaler went away to the point I don't have one anymore. I have other allergies to but they aren't that bad. I can usually just suck it up or take half a zrytec and I'm fine and thats mostly just an issue in the spring.

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Jo Waller's avatar

My friend's lovely cat just died and she noticed immediately her cough which she's had for years has gone.

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coords1306's avatar

It was my wife's cat but I loved him a lot. Even composed a simple melody I used to whistle to him at snack time. Only time I ever tried to compose anything. But as the years wore on as we had him for maybe 10 years, I began to worry how much I may be hurting my health. Now I want a dog.

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Jo Waller's avatar

awww. I like the fact that you can take a dog with you places

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Barekicks's avatar

Fascinating write-up.

You talk about pollution in Wuhan and Northern Italy. Did this cause the bouts of illness seen in early 2020 or merely exacerbate the population's susceptibility to illness (alongside other factors)?

And what about the cities which subsequently became hotspots of similar pathologies? London, Madrid, New York City... Living in the first, with widespread family in the second and friends in the third, I knew MANY people who got sick around the same time in March 2020 (prior to any lockdown policies being in place). Nearly all of them exhibited quite particular sets of symptoms which did not appear like a run-of-the-mill seasonal cold (including GI issues, complete loss of smell, nausea and headache, etc.).

Could this have been an environmental toxin of some sort? What was it that facilitated its emergence in these specific places? Do you think the spike protein itself was deliberately spread as a bioweapon?

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California Girl's avatar

I too wondered if there wasn't an environmental toxin at work. But found no record of anyone actually considering that possibility or looking for it. The best possibility I could come up with was glyphosate, which has sadly become ubiquitous in our environment.

It is odd and disturbing that TPTB were so committed to the SARS-CoV-2 story that they attributed all illness to it. They had a story to sell and damn, they were going to sell it. I knew something was beyond fishy when they redefined vaccine.

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Frances Leader's avatar

A Spanish doctor produced evidence of correlation between the roll out of 5G and the sequence of outbreaks during early 2020.

Unfortunately very few people have actually read his paper.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=12846

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Jo Waller's avatar

thank you Frances I'll take a look x

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California Girl's avatar

You are absolutely correct!

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Mystic William's avatar

Also, re AIDS: there is a component of sperm that shuts down the immune system. Without this the woman’s body would reject it outright. The anti-immune component though in a woman is restricted to the pregnancy area. In a gay male having unprotected anal sex it gets into the blood stream through anal tears. Do this 200 times a year for a few years and is it possible that creates a syndrome?

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