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Rob Dubya's avatar

Not really knowing anything about biology before 2021, I can't comment on how much of this is bang on, but it sounds about the most coherent explanation for what is happening.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Thank you.

Always learning. Always open

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Brian's avatar

Indeed it does. Long covid is then a descriptor of the body being in a chronic state of a detox/healing phase which is complicated by repeated quackcination.

If there are five gallons of water flowing into your boat and you can only bail out four, you will eventually sink. Steve Kirsch put out an article the other day that this process typically takes five months to lead to death. Further digging is required to find out which population is most subject to that outcome in that timeframe.

I expect it is those who already can't keep up with bailing out the toxins at the rate they are coming in.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Yes, I think this is exactly what is happening. I'm no big fan of Kirsch with regard to the size of his ego or the way he holds himself in the virus debate. I think he's positioning himself for a financial opportunity. But he's mostly right about the vaccines.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yeah agreeing with SK makes me highly suspicious that I'm being duped.

I've just read this interesting perspective from Sebastien Powell https://sebastienpowell.substack.com/p/yellow-card-and-vaers?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=email 'We’ve been told by various figureheads within this ‘movement’ that these ‘vaccines’ are a novel form of ‘gene therapy’, and that those who take them will somehow have their DNA altered. Simultaneously, we’ve been told they contain self-assembling ‘nanobots’ that can interface with the aforementioned 5G masts, graphene oxide, and some ‘HIV’ for good measure. And come winter (2021), many who had taken it were going to die, when they ‘re-encountered the virus in the wild’ – whilst those who chose not to have it would be taken to FEMA camps. To date, neither of these predictions appears to have come true.'

'Perhaps the ‘leaders’ of the ‘truth movement’ should stop telling everyone who have had the jab that they’re almost definitely going to die – lest it become a self-fulfilling prophecy (it’s worth noting that Steve Kirsch, by his own admission, is vaccinated – but seems to be very much alive and kicking, even though he had his jab more than 5 months ago). And given that so many of the predictions made by the ‘leaders’ of this movement have not come to pass, it may be time, as Ayn Rand so brilliantly put it, to once more “check our premises” – one of them may be wrong.'

In the same way that we are questioning the ‘medical establishments’ dogma, so too must we question the ‘leaders’ of the ‘truth movement’, who appear – almost desperately so at times – to want us to believe that the vaccines are THE problem.

Jo

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Brian's avatar

Steve K is still under the spell of pHARMa, he has made some progress, but he has a long way to go.

He still runs the VSRF which is an oxymoron in itself. Quackcine Safety Research Foundation. Really? do they have any research that quackcines are safe? Same for RFK and Bigtree, they are advocating for safe quackcines, when the fact they are unsafe is written into the law.

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Len Kinder's avatar

I didn't know he was involved in that kind of crap. Golly. Controlled opposition?

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Brian's avatar

That is a phrase that is used quite often. Actively controlled, maybe. More likely to be influenced by his own personal story and may have friends in the pHARMa biz or other influential people in his life who may or may not also be donors to his cause.

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Brian's avatar

I had a general idea, but reading this article gave me a much better understanding of what controlled opposition is and how it functions:

https://gregwyatt.net/del-bigtree-exposed/

SK is not mentioned, but I given the name of his foundation he is in the same position as RFK Jr. and Bigtree. They all depend on the virus narrative, the cost to give it up is just to high, despite what they say about seeking the truth.

"If Del Bigtree was a real leader with real integrity, then he would demand that we stop giving any and all vaccines to every single child across America, immediately. If we did that, then we wouldn’t need their worthless government “services,” because there would be no more injuries."

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Brian's avatar

Exactly, the quackcines are A problem, not THE problem. Even if the quackcines were halted today, it is only one step of many on a long road to health and prosperity.

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Len Kinder's avatar

I don't care for Rockefeller(I meant Rothschild)-loving Ayn Rand at all (e.g. https://blogln.ning.com/profiles/blogs/2189391:BlogPost:44940?overrideMobileRedirect=1 ), but I do want to be cautious about working with Kirsch too. I believe viruses are real and can be weaponized, but microbiology seems to be less well-understood than most folks seem to believe. I'm trying to determine exactly what is known and what to do about it. I have these two posts that I'd like to get experts' answers to: https://ilki.substack.com/p/is-microbiology-real and https://ilki.substack.com/p/vax-questions-for-experts/comments

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Brian's avatar

The ACM (all cause mortality) shows that if viruses are real, they prefer Americans to Canadians, older to the younger, and residents of regions in which stricter health measures were taken. In other words it shows there was/is no pandemic of a contagious particle.

As far as weaponizing viruses goes, I have not seen any evidence that they exist, but there is plenty of speculation. Meanwhile, the population continues to rise, so if there are folks who aim to reduce it, they are either taking their time, or don't have anything that works yet on a significant scale.

https://ourworldindata.org/births-and-deaths

Even if the annual death numbers were doubled, births would still outpace the deaths. Life insurance data is showing deaths may be up to 40% higher so even if they stay there, world population will still increase.

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Isaac Middle's avatar

Makes sense to me!

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yay!

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Robin Davis's avatar

I was just talking about this the other day! Thank you for writing this.

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Jo Waller's avatar

My pleasure 🙏🏽

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Shamus's avatar

Destroy the immune system by design? There is a lot of excellent information discussed and published for a couple years that supports that.

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Jo Waller's avatar

I'm not sure.

I think they wanted to normalise mRNA injections to use for other things. However some people are saying there is no mRNA in the jabs to make the p180-200 protein and any toxic effects are caused by something else.

I also wouldn't call it an 'immune' system as there's nothing to be immune to. Bacteria are omnipresent on our skin, in the air we breathe, lining the lungs, gut, brain and kidneys and in every organ. And viruses of course don't exist.

Jo

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Fay's avatar

This study was very interesting. Why was it retracted?

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Jo Waller's avatar

I think because it showed 'full length' 'spike' protein 'vaccine' in a negative light.

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Len Kinder's avatar

VIDEOS OF IMMUNE SYSTEM (2012)

Maybe we could watch some of these together, or at least the last one, and see if we can come to a better understanding.

Organs and Hematopoiesis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBMIkfMMTHs

Neutrophils

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysw_Zs-ydP8

Dendritic Cells & Macrophages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZWOh3NEsag

B Cells & Antibody Release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_49z0Xf235Q&list=PLD098929B4625426A&index=6

T Cells and NK Cells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouqVl6CpW-U&list=PLD098929B4625426A&index=7

Pro Viral HIV Replication

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIH9T-GBjm4&list=PLD098929B4625426A&index=8

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Brian's avatar

re: Pro Viral HIV Replication: "a deadly virus that causes AIDS". We are also told that the virus can be dormant for years/decades. So which is it? Deadly or dormant? This sure looks like a terrain issue. If HIV 'causes' AIDS, why does it take such a variable amount of time in different people? Taking a step back, where is the evidence HIV exists?

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Jo Waller's avatar

do they show experiments using controls treated in the same way to which they are blinded as to which is which

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