Can't the jump in 2020 be explained by the stress of the lockdowns, the deaths of the rest home people from purposeful bad medicine, and the killer policies inside the hospitals?
Thanks. People get the time lines mixed up on these things. Like did the Wuhan drop dead picture happen in late 2018 or 2019? We need to not expect everyone to remember what we are all trying to forget.
I never saw the wuhan falling over pics, as wasn't on Twitter then and I hadn't watched, and still don't, any news sources at all for about a decade.
That probably explains why I was so incredulous when my friends started to say we are going to be locked down because of a virus that they're gonna make a horrible vaccine for, I kept saying but why, nothing is going to happen, which of. course it hasn't, unless you count Midazolam Matt and the rest of the sorry saga.
The wuhan pic was a crisis actor. People with respiratory conditions dont fall flat down like a pencil falls, nor do the hazmat people stare at the camera when they get there. The deaths as you describe above are due to the "harvesting effect" of lockdowns etc pushing people who would die in the next few months over the edge. Its also called mortality displacement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement
Yes excess deaths is a thing used to compared monthly trends with the previous 5 years, so they go up and down throughout the year, and is relative to what's happened in previous years. When you add the total deaths for a year , bearing in mind the numbers for December 2022 weren't all in, and then show them as a percentage of the living (the population size which is usually increasing unless people are immigrating), it gives a clearer picture of what's going on. I think so anyway. I could be wrong!
I was also surprised end of 2021 that there weren't more deaths from the introduction of the vaccine, but I think we'd killed off most of the frail in 2020 with midazolam and/or loneliness.
I maintain they don't want us dead, but rather living mostly indoors, fat, sick and on their drugs.
I'll have a look. I knew aluminium is in vaccines, Professor Exley has done research and found aluminium in the brains of people with autism, I believe. He subsequently lost his job and got canceled everywhere
I hadn't heard of him before. He's saying that silicates found in mineral water (particularly Volvic!) can leach out the aluminium for the brain, bone and body and people with POTS for example, after the HPV vaccine for example are getting better. Yes he was fired for saying he could make people better. I will have to look him up.
Where are these stats from? Doesn't jibe with stats in US... We had a LOT of excess deaths in 2021 and '22, and NOT in 2020... those stats were fiddled... depending on where/when they were obtained.
Excess deaths is also a different measure, it looks at all cause death as compared to that month during the previous 5 years-they can show peaks and troughs across the year.
The excess death chart for UK in April 2020 looked alarming as was compared to the previous 5 (low) years but when the total number of deaths for the year are put into context, not so much.
We'd already killed off the elderly with midazolam in 2020 so the following years were lower for us. If you hadn't killed so many in 2020 the following years will be higher.
There may be large peaks in the excess death graph but it's only a comparison with other years for that month, I'm not saying the vaccine didn't kill a lot of people!!! I'm saying it's injured many more than it's killed.
I am sure that the population of the US is still increasing. this macrotrend site says
the current population of U.S. in 2022 is 338,289,857, a 0.38% increase from 2021.
The population of U.S. in 2021 was 336,997,624, a 0.31% increase from 2020.
The population of U.S. in 2020 was 335,942,003, a 0.49% increase from 2019.
The population of U.S. in 2019 was 334,319,671, a 0.66% increase from 2018.
I yam still skeptical. We in the US have lost* some hundreds of thousands of folks... according to stats I've seen, and can't remember WHERE, typical of me. I just remember seeing it... photo memory.
there are from the Office of National Statistics- they may well have been fiddled with by the UK government I have no way of knowing, but probably not by much
There was right around 80,000 excess in the US in April 2020. These xs deaths came mostly from 15 states indicating no "viral pandemic." These xs deaths were caused by policy shifts in hopsitals and nursing homes in those 15 states. NY State alone counted for around 25,000 of that xs. NJ counted for around 11,000 or so of that xs in April 2020.
As you state all of these deaths were from the frail- average age around 82 w/5 or more comorbidities. They were killed.
United States reported 3,353,787 deaths, for the 52 weeks of year 2020 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,910,693. That is an increase of +443,094 deaths (+15.2%).
United States reported 3,457,519 deaths for the 52 weeks of year 2021 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,937,434. That is an increase of +520,085 deaths (+17.7%).
Year to date, United States reported 3,107,927 deaths for the 50 weeks of year 2022 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,857,399. That is an increase of +250,528 deaths (+8.8%).
from the numbers of deaths you've given; death rate in 2019 of 0.85%, 2020 0.98%, 2021 1.025%, and 2022 0.918%; an increase in death rate of 0.148% from 2019 to 2020, a 0.027% increase in deaths from 2020 to 2021 and a 0.107% drop in deaths 2021 to 2022 (up to December).
The population of the US has increased by nearly 4 million since 2019.
Yes, I've seen other people quoting these figures.
AND I've seen in 2020, and early 2021, different figures showing NO excess deaths in the US, and actually a little bit UNDER the usual numbers.
I don't doubt your sincerity, but I doubt that there were excess deaths in the US in 2020.
I very clearly remember that information. I don't remember who also had that info, but someone here on SS verified it, and I trusted them to be accurate...
I wish I had saved that info... I do think that data was manipulated so it would appear that excess deaths happened in the USA due to "COVID."
That may have come from Linda Bilmes at Johns Hopkins- that study of hers was getting around.
If you want to get into the details of the numbers your best bet is to go state by state and week by week (which I have done) and you will see that the figures I posted are accurate.
Interestingly up until the week the WHO declared the Pandemic the US was at around 11,000 negative excess for the first three months of the year.
Hospicide and Eldercide took care of that.
The "Covid" death numbers were grossly manipulated to be sure- all of them.
Hmmm...this makes me feel better than “it’s genocide”...so there’s that!:)
Can't the jump in 2020 be explained by the stress of the lockdowns, the deaths of the rest home people from purposeful bad medicine, and the killer policies inside the hospitals?
Yes that's exactly what they're explained by - I thought it was a given!- I'll put your words in
thank you
Thanks. People get the time lines mixed up on these things. Like did the Wuhan drop dead picture happen in late 2018 or 2019? We need to not expect everyone to remember what we are all trying to forget.
I never saw the wuhan falling over pics, as wasn't on Twitter then and I hadn't watched, and still don't, any news sources at all for about a decade.
That probably explains why I was so incredulous when my friends started to say we are going to be locked down because of a virus that they're gonna make a horrible vaccine for, I kept saying but why, nothing is going to happen, which of. course it hasn't, unless you count Midazolam Matt and the rest of the sorry saga.
The wuhan pic was a crisis actor. People with respiratory conditions dont fall flat down like a pencil falls, nor do the hazmat people stare at the camera when they get there. The deaths as you describe above are due to the "harvesting effect" of lockdowns etc pushing people who would die in the next few months over the edge. Its also called mortality displacement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortality_displacement
the wuhan pics are also quite funny
yes
Interesting! I thought there were excess.deaths in 2022, but maybe it's not as bad as I feared
Hello 🧘🏻♀️🙏🏽🥰!
Yes excess deaths is a thing used to compared monthly trends with the previous 5 years, so they go up and down throughout the year, and is relative to what's happened in previous years. When you add the total deaths for a year , bearing in mind the numbers for December 2022 weren't all in, and then show them as a percentage of the living (the population size which is usually increasing unless people are immigrating), it gives a clearer picture of what's going on. I think so anyway. I could be wrong!
I was also surprised end of 2021 that there weren't more deaths from the introduction of the vaccine, but I think we'd killed off most of the frail in 2020 with midazolam and/or loneliness.
I maintain they don't want us dead, but rather living mostly indoors, fat, sick and on their drugs.
Jo
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Hiya Marijke,
not related to deaths, but to aluminium and vaccines- have you seen this or heard of these chap? https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/aluminium-vaccines-and-detox
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I'll have a look. I knew aluminium is in vaccines, Professor Exley has done research and found aluminium in the brains of people with autism, I believe. He subsequently lost his job and got canceled everywhere
I hadn't heard of him before. He's saying that silicates found in mineral water (particularly Volvic!) can leach out the aluminium for the brain, bone and body and people with POTS for example, after the HPV vaccine for example are getting better. Yes he was fired for saying he could make people better. I will have to look him up.
see soon
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hello again, I've tried to explain the difference between excess deaths and the death rate in this edited post https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/excess-mortality-what-does-it-show
may or may not be clearer!
Jo
Happy New Year! 🎆
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Where are these stats from? Doesn't jibe with stats in US... We had a LOT of excess deaths in 2021 and '22, and NOT in 2020... those stats were fiddled... depending on where/when they were obtained.
Excess deaths is also a different measure, it looks at all cause death as compared to that month during the previous 5 years-they can show peaks and troughs across the year.
The excess death chart for UK in April 2020 looked alarming as was compared to the previous 5 (low) years but when the total number of deaths for the year are put into context, not so much.
We'd already killed off the elderly with midazolam in 2020 so the following years were lower for us. If you hadn't killed so many in 2020 the following years will be higher.
There may be large peaks in the excess death graph but it's only a comparison with other years for that month, I'm not saying the vaccine didn't kill a lot of people!!! I'm saying it's injured many more than it's killed.
I am sure that the population of the US is still increasing. this macrotrend site says
the current population of U.S. in 2022 is 338,289,857, a 0.38% increase from 2021.
The population of U.S. in 2021 was 336,997,624, a 0.31% increase from 2020.
The population of U.S. in 2020 was 335,942,003, a 0.49% increase from 2019.
The population of U.S. in 2019 was 334,319,671, a 0.66% increase from 2018.
I yam still skeptical. We in the US have lost* some hundreds of thousands of folks... according to stats I've seen, and can't remember WHERE, typical of me. I just remember seeing it... photo memory.
* I edited that... I had "lots" instead -- doh!
there are from the Office of National Statistics- they may well have been fiddled with by the UK government I have no way of knowing, but probably not by much
I'm always quite skeptical of govt. anything. :)
There was a small xs death in April of 2020 in the US of about 10k. It was harvesting of the frail from lockdown.
There was right around 80,000 excess in the US in April 2020. These xs deaths came mostly from 15 states indicating no "viral pandemic." These xs deaths were caused by policy shifts in hopsitals and nursing homes in those 15 states. NY State alone counted for around 25,000 of that xs. NJ counted for around 11,000 or so of that xs in April 2020.
As you state all of these deaths were from the frail- average age around 82 w/5 or more comorbidities. They were killed.
Yes, I think that's most likely so, and the overall count for deaths in 2020 was a little bit below the "usual" of previous years.
United States reported 3,353,787 deaths, for the 52 weeks of year 2020 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,910,693. That is an increase of +443,094 deaths (+15.2%).
United States reported 3,457,519 deaths for the 52 weeks of year 2021 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,937,434. That is an increase of +520,085 deaths (+17.7%).
Year to date, United States reported 3,107,927 deaths for the 50 weeks of year 2022 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,857,399. That is an increase of +250,528 deaths (+8.8%).
What on earth does 'expected' deaths mean or come from?
from the numbers of deaths you've given; death rate in 2019 of 0.85%, 2020 0.98%, 2021 1.025%, and 2022 0.918%; an increase in death rate of 0.148% from 2019 to 2020, a 0.027% increase in deaths from 2020 to 2021 and a 0.107% drop in deaths 2021 to 2022 (up to December).
The population of the US has increased by nearly 4 million since 2019.
THAT seems sketchy, but I donut know.
I would imagine that "expected" deaths would be extrapolation from previous years' death stats... ?
Yes, I've seen other people quoting these figures.
AND I've seen in 2020, and early 2021, different figures showing NO excess deaths in the US, and actually a little bit UNDER the usual numbers.
I don't doubt your sincerity, but I doubt that there were excess deaths in the US in 2020.
I very clearly remember that information. I don't remember who also had that info, but someone here on SS verified it, and I trusted them to be accurate...
I wish I had saved that info... I do think that data was manipulated so it would appear that excess deaths happened in the USA due to "COVID."
That may have come from Linda Bilmes at Johns Hopkins- that study of hers was getting around.
If you want to get into the details of the numbers your best bet is to go state by state and week by week (which I have done) and you will see that the figures I posted are accurate.
Interestingly up until the week the WHO declared the Pandemic the US was at around 11,000 negative excess for the first three months of the year.
Hospicide and Eldercide took care of that.
The "Covid" death numbers were grossly manipulated to be sure- all of them.