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The Word Herder's avatar

I am intrigued...

No immune system? Please point me to books? I need to study ALL THIS...

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Jo Waller's avatar

There aren't any yet! Lanka talks a bit about it, but he says there aren't 'antibodies' which there definelty are.

I shall write one.

All the cells we thought were fighting infections and cancer are in fact not.

We've got just about everything wrong

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The Word Herder's avatar

Want help writing one?

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I would like to find a place to learn about holistic nutrition...

My life is no longer restrained by anything. Except funding. A barter exchange would be cool... I wonder how I would find that? Ideas?

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Jo Waller's avatar

I'll think on

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The Word Herder's avatar

No obligation, just thought of you. xo Thanks!

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Decaf's avatar

I keep reading because something is in this that corresponds to how I look at health. I think our health is much more dependent on what we do than what is done to us. And when something is "done" to us (physical injury, etc), I think we have a lot of influence in terms of how we "recover" our equilibrium, which may take a while if a big issue is at hand and requires us to examine certain beliefs/habits in depth and do some kind of reorg.

I'm trying to figure something out: I moved to FL early November to get away from the MSM mindset, etc, in MA, but shortly afterwards started developing inflammation in my hands and somewhat in my feet. I know some may have been caused by all the work I subjected my hands to, but I also believe it's a detox. (My acupuncturist told me energy gets released through hands and feet.) The first, very painful wave may have just been from having made this huge decision to

leave and getting a respite from the toxic environment back home. This less painful wave began the day after Christmas when I decided to dump my anger, disappointment, and fear. I don't think this is a coincidence. I'm sleeping so well since then, but I have this inflammation... Any thoughts?

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hello,

thanks for reading!

yes health and happiness is dependent on us I think. what is done to us is done, we can choose to accept it or we can choose to let ourselves fester. Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional Cheri Huber says.

I'm not sure what the work you subjected your hands to involves, but yes def detox could be happening. The body knows. You have also changed just about everything in your life; air, environment, trees, plants, mould, spores, temperature, source of food and water, energies, EMF, people, attitudes could be the body adjusting .

If you are sleeping so well I feel it must be a catharsis and recovery period. Is it you body telling you to stop using your hands so much?

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Decaf's avatar

Thanks for replying! The first time around I was rough with my hands, but this last time I did little to provoke this. You're right about how everything changed, not just me getting away from a certain mentality. It was a hard move, and harder to let go of what I left behind. More to think about. Too much changed all at once for cause and effect to be clear. I appreciate your taking time to give your thoughts.

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Jo Waller's avatar

🙏🏽

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Donald Schuler's avatar

Our bodies adapt amazingly. Am constantly in new areas and it seems to happen a couple xs a week when I’m working. My 92 yr old aunt who is in top health has remarked the same when around a new environment. It could be an auto immune response to a toxin. People have talked about shedding but I’m not sure about that. It seems too random. I’m more in line with the thought that the EMFs can create a foreign toxin which some of us can react to. I do know that my own sister passed because of radioactive isotopes handling as a student nurse. She struggled with health challenges for many years and seemed highly susceptible to illness.

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Javier Lopez's avatar

Ok I agree... but why am I telling people to get their D3 from sunshine? Does it support the "healing / detox mechanism? And when levels are low toxins accumulate triggering a set of symptoms that people call "colds." But then why have my "cold" experiences always followed getting wet and cold? Either way, I accept these experiences (whatever they are) as natural processes that don't require special attention other than rest and liquid diet, maybe some painkillers to ease the soreness.

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Jo Waller's avatar

D3 is required for all sorts of reactions, processes and optimal living, we have evolved having lots of it, so we use it and need it.

being cold and wet can kill cells in the lungs and respiratory tract which must then be expelled with mucus build up. It's also a stressor which means toxins build while the body is focussed on surviving the stress.

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Javier Lopez's avatar

Thanks. That makes perfect sense. Any idea what's happening when I eat dairy (usually fatty products) and I get a reaction in my throat and nose? Is that cells breaking down and gettng flushed out too?

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Jo Waller's avatar

A cow herself will also be experiencing considerable stress, her calf taken away, mastitis etc, and will produce proteins to stimulate the detoxification of stress toxins which are passed into her milk. Milk also contains pus and cells from her udders (pasteurised but not cooked).These mammalian proteins may well cross react with human receptors and stimulate the detox process in the human drinking her milk, this involves the production of mucus in the human. It make also explain eczema and asthma as the body creates inflammation in order to detox.

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Javier Lopez's avatar

Thanks again. That explains things wonderfully.

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Jo Waller's avatar

You're very welcome

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Jo Waller's avatar

The thinking is that the casomorphins in the milk (evolved to create an addiction for suckling and close bond between mother and baby- very important for survival of the infant) stimulate the opioid receptors on the nose and respiratory tract and produce mucus.

Consuming dairy post weaning, particularly from another species which will contain all sorts of growth factors and white cells involved in signalling intended specifically for her baby, doesn't seem to be a very good idea to me.

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Javier Lopez's avatar

That makes perfect sense. The dairy industry certainly has its issues that I wasn't aware of before The Great Hysteria. We used to have a couple cows per household where I live until not too long ago. Nothing like the industrial farms today. The number one product today is UHT milk which I guess is the worst version (homogenized, blended crap). I'm weening myself off and looking for alternatives. Hard to convince people to stop consuming dairy though.. especially cheese!

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Jo Waller's avatar

Yes cheese is addictive because of the opioids as mentioned, and also it's mostly fat and salt. I like oat milk and oat yoghurt. There's a UK company called Honestly Tasty; its founder also came up against his love of cheese, https://honestlytasty.co.uk/pages/about make cheese which I served at a party- the blue cheese was complimented on before they were told it was vegan, they didn't even realise, and the brie was said by a French man to be excellent in taste and texture. I know there is a lot of naff vegan cheese but there's no excuse for it.

I hope you find some stockists or similar companies.

My experience was for the first 2 weeks of vegan I felt at times I would really like to eat some cheese. Then the feeling went away and I only eat vegan cheese very rarely cos of it's high fat and salt. 2 weeks is apparently the time it takes to clear the opioid addiction.

Good luck

🙏🏽

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Javier Lopez's avatar

Well there's some synchronicity for you. My sister mentioned oat milk alternatives last night. I will definitely be looking for these products now. You've been a great help. Moving on to pastures new (forgive the pun).

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Donald Schuler's avatar

I have commented before the sensitivity to EMF areas and solar fields that seem to leak and cause me to feel toxic. Nausea etc. I travel on my job... I have also noticed highly especially at the onset of these vaccines, when I am around a newly vaccinated individual, my throat will shut and it’s all I can do but wheeze and barely talk. It seems to effect the weakness in an individual. It will take me a day or so to stop feeling funky. Have you found any evidence to suggest that we are in effect being vaccinated in a way? It wasn’t my imagination because it happened randomly.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Hiya, not personally no. I'm around vaccinated people all the time and even live with one but not ill effects for me.

No RCT's have been done measuring inflammation? proteins? in the blood, with people the participants have been told are vaccinated but who haven't been as a controls, as far as I know

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Decaf's avatar

Good to know. I decided to ignore it or I'd be on the other side of the same coin vaccinated people live on, i.e., fear of others. I haven't noticed a problem either.

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