Thanks...I think. I was waiting for a turn in the article to some sort of uplifting message to part with...but I wouldn't have been able to buy it anyway
You know I went deeper down the 'no virus' hole. Still can't buy it completely as I still think an infectious germ better explains how some sicknesses have gone through my family. But it certainly has opened up my eyes to some real weaknesses in the science of virology. Thanks.
Yep. That sums up our condition succinctly. Unfortunately, the perennial question is how to get there from here, and I'm pretty pessimistic about that.
I don't know but I think it helps to know and talk about where we are, who's pulling our strings and how we feel about that though as a good start! Then think about where we would like to go.
You obviously have a lot of research and homework to do. Man made climate change IS A LIE. A global boogie man created to cover up an agenda to control ALL human activity. Global warming was created to cover up the real agenda behind UN Agenda 21 because they had to have a global boogie man to scare people into compliance. When global warming was found to be a fraud they changed the boogie man to climate change and THEY now control the weather as well. You are very misinformed and very dangerous to your readers.
That easily dismissed claim is one of them. Global warming and climate change have been used interchangeably in the literature for decades. It is getting warmer in any case.
Do you think they are not clever enough to have created Agenda 21 to cover up the real agenda which is to make us use their products and make money even though they know climate change is real?
But before all the climate hysteria we were gobbling up their products, just as we continue to do.
The UN is now saying the earth is boiling. It’s not. The UK had a wet and cool July, Malta’s heat is now a cooler than usual August, Boston seems to be sliding into fall about 2 weeks early, and Antarctica is very, very cold right now, colder than in the recent 5-6 years. And Biden is ramping up to declare a climate emergency as well.
Who do you think is funding the UN and the Biden regime, if not the same people behind the Ukraine money-laundering and the corona scam?
Yes, we are warming slightly, but we’re coming out of a little ice age. Very few people die of climate issues. The number is way, way down from what it used to be. In the 80 we had 5.5 billion and now we have 8, with less people suffering from food insufficiency. The increase in crops is because it’s warmer.
The key point with these same people’s agendas is that they are using a multi+pronged approach. On the one hand, humanity’s fear of disease and death, then sympathy for the war-ravaged and their deaths, and now people’s fear of death by planet. They figure we’ve all got to be affected by one or the other.
Do you think they’re going to do anything to improve the situation even if as they say they shut down fossil fuels? Renewables will and can never happen with the technology we have now or the near future, barring some technological miracle. The planet will plunge into chaos, famine, and life in the mid-19th century.
The merit or otherwise of policies does not mean climate change is not happening nor that fossil fuels and animal ag are not causing it.
The global month average has never been so high in a global south winter. They have been getting hotter and hotter since the 80s. It's meaningless to say its cold in one place at one time.
I suspect this is true today, though it hasn't always been true and it's not global warming that has led to sharp downturns in human surivability but its opposite: global cooling, brought on by solar minimums and corresponding super volcano activity, which as you mention took us into the Little Ice Age.
Global warming has been happening for the last 300 years, which is why Greenland can grow cabbage again and why artic ice no longer blocks passage like it did from c. 1400-1700. Global warming predates the industrial revolution, but I for one am not rooting for the petro barons.
By the way, the Rockefeller Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers and other super wealthy trusts have been abandoning oil investments for "renewables", at least officially. Meanwhile, 99% of pharmaceuticals (a Rockefeller specialty) are made from petroleum. What gives?
My solutioin... abandon petroleum products, big pharma all the other chemical poisons, boycott plastic bags and other disposables, and find a way back into the arms of Mother Earth as quickly as we can.
You write "the vaccines were allegedly going to kill millions, though they didn’t." I'm confused by this. OpenVAERS reports that, as of July 28 of this year, the various "safe and effective" Covid vaccines are directly responsible for 35,726 deaths (https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality). And yet that's only the confirmed number, representing approx. 1-10% of actual deaths. (OpenVAERS actually explicitly states that the reported number from VAERS is only 1% of the actual number.) So, in fact, we're looking at a range of 300 k to 3 million vaccine-related deaths, and only in the U.S. and Europe. (I've heard as many as 600 k in the U.S. alone have died from the vaccines, with my father possibly having been one of them.) People are dropping like flies from the vaccines, all according to plan, and those killed would seem to be easily in the millions by now. Am I wrong?
I was meaning that the alleged plan was to depopulate, though even with vaccines the death rate has dropped since 2020 and the population has increase by a couple of million since 2019
OK. Indeed, census.gov for the US estimates a 0.6% increase in population (or 1.8 million) from April, 2020 to July, 2022. So I guess the rate of vaccine-related deaths is not keeping pace with population growth? But note that vaccine rollout didn't commence until Dec., 2021, so the numbers for that 1.67-year period would seem to be most significant, if I can find them. Unfortunately, census.gov has population data only through July 2022, and usafacts.org only through the end of 2021. Will research further.
Correction: Initial rollout of vaccines was in Dec., 2020.
Thank Michigan Rob. This is why I post on here. The vaccine deaths so far haven't taken us over an average dying off and rebirth in an ageing population. Americans and Europeans are still very long lived despite how unhealthy we generally are. Just the way pharma wants it. The vaccines haven't in any way led to a mass die of people is what I was trying to say, but of course thank you for pointing out they are killing millions. I have more accurate data on England and Wales (think I'll amend my post again) than the US, please let me know what you find.
You may wish to check out the Denis Rancourt study estimating deaths related to Covid-vaccine roll-out by studying all-cause mortality. The numbers are significant: 1 death per 800 doses or 1 per 400 people since on average people got around 2 shots each; extrapolated to 17 million vaccine-related deaths worldwide, and that was just the immediately visible results--not long term.
Of course, even 17 million is not a great number among 8 billion. (viz.: if you have a church, say, with 400 people, you might be left with only 399). But many more will be disabled or infirm, thus more reliant on Big Pharma unless they're rebels.
I have checked out this 17. million ‘extrapolatation’ here’s my reply.
I struggle with the 17 million figure and sanity. 17 million 'excess deaths' due to a new factor indicates the death rate would have to have risen over and above the 'normal' number of deaths by 0.07% each year, or 0.21% overall from 2021 to 2023.
It has clearly not done that. In E and W the death rate was 0.892% in 2019, 1.02% in 2020, 0.98% in 2021, 0.96% in 2022 and 0.95% in 2023 . This represents an increase of 0.19% overall over the very low death year of 2019, so 90% of the number of deaths required (and not age adjusted so in reality even less).
Of this 15.3 million ‘extra’ deaths, if E & W extrapolated to the world, only 5.5 billion were jabbed leaving us with 10 million deaths possibly from jabs.
We are asked to believe that ALL of these so called ‘extra’ 10 million (out of 183 million) deaths over three years (when compared to one unprecedentedly low death year) were caused by the jabs and not the on going effects of lockdowns, loneliness, ageing, junk food, lack of exercise, stress or flu jabs. This is nuts.
Worldometers.info gives a live running tally of changes in world population (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/). And, btw, how this is even possible, I wonder. The previous two sites I checked derived their data from the UN and this one also (from the "2022 U.N. Revision"), so that may be a red flag. In addition, this site has a "Coronavirus" page that tallies "cases" and "deaths" from...wait for it...the "virus" (i.e., the same one never proven to exist.) So why the heck am I even looking at this site?! (I'm too deep in, so I'm going with it.)
Re: changes in world population, although the site shows the yearly percentage change in population growth rate as being DOWN during the years 2021-2023 (meaning a slower rate of growth), there has indeed been a continuing increase in global population (now up to 8.045 billion), with 2021 to 2022 seeing a 65 mill. increase, and 2022 to 2023 a 70 mill. increase. My guess is that vaccines, along with all the horror that went with draconian lockdowns and other totalitarian policies that destroyed people's psychological and physiological well-being, explain the slowed growth rate (from 0.98% in 2020 to 0.83% in 2022 and 0.88% thus far in 2023).
I think the slowed rate of growth is due to the Chinese not having babies apparently because they'd rather work hard, earn money and have a good standard of living. Emancipation and education of women slows the birth rate, so it will naturally slow as GDP in the developing world rises. But while India are still getting younger and younger the population will continue to rise even at a slower rate. Interesting.
In that previous article, I appreciate your reference to "care home murders" and "murder by midazolam." Sounds like a Broadway musical or Hitchcock thriller. Anyway, the slowed DEATH rate in the UK from 2020 to 2022, as you note, is surprising. I would have thought the exact opposite, although as you also note, obesity rates (in the UK) are up, cases of myocarditis (in France and Germany) are way up (and the US is witnessing innumerable cases of post-vaccine heart problems), and, of course, Pharma is making a "killing" (pun intended) in the 100s of billions. So you're suggesting the Covid scam is/was primarily one to DISABLE people so as to increase profits for the medical industry (i.e., income generation)?
Agreed. But I might argue that disability is only the INITIAL stage of the genocide, whereby victims are first divested of their savings to PAY for the exorbitant costs of disability treatments and healthcare. Then death arrives to meet the quotas of the psychopaths and their depopulation agenda (which has been in the works for decades). Also, another financial windfall comes with the death of elderly pensioners. (The state-run university where my dad was a prof is now happily off the clock in paying his pension.)
Yes I think the covid scam like all disease mongering is to disable and make more money out of the alleged prophylaxis and cure when they're is nothing wrong with us in the first place. It's money. yes income generation.I think hanging on to the belief that there's an evil conspiracy of people having death quotas, in the planning for ages, to depopulate us is blinding us to what is really going on. Yes the death rate slowing in 21 and 22 was a surprise to many as they had been misled by sensationalists in medial freedom to think that there were many more vaccine deaths happening than there was. Like they did to us with covid. Could this also have been a deliberate part of making us think there was an evil plan to cull us using vaccines, when there wasn't?
They want us fat sick and on drugs, still spending not dead. The annual 'flu' is indeed a cover to get rid of elderly care home residents to make way for the next lot. They are succeeding in keeping us alive for so long this is necessary. Pharma is indeed making a killing.
correction I didn't mean more vaccine deaths than there were, I meant more excess deaths ie over and above the 5 year average. Excess deaths were quoted relative to the number of deaths rather than relative to the size of the population as a whole I go into I here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/my-final-stab-at-excess-deaths-before
I was unsure about that bit . I'm going to take it out. Yes you right, they have killed millions as have other vaccines. but the main plan is income generation.
Not onIy vaccines, chemo, and drugs, but all of the pesticides, plastics, industrial waste from their industries cause the diseases, but also their junk food, corn/soy/wheat/cottonseed oil, etc. If anyone still doesn't know, here are a couple of vids on the matter: https://youtu.be/nM1U_0d6H4Q and https://www.bitchute.com/video/xAW4NsMd5iYh/ .
I've checked out some of your articles and I like your research. The 17 million figure was an extrapolation from a study on a number of southern hemisphere countries. It's been a while since I read Rancourt's work. I know he ajusted for population increase and SOME of his graphs look at specific age groups and/or gender, but I don't recall if any of them are "age standardized." Do you have an explanation for how he may have come up with the wrong figures? Thanks.
And I see you posting articles from Georgie&Donnie's Substack. Does that mean you are a co-author?
It's well known that the origins of the environmental movement began with concern that non-whites would overpopulate the world and take resources from whites who were seen as superior.
Thanks...I think. I was waiting for a turn in the article to some sort of uplifting message to part with...but I wouldn't have been able to buy it anyway
Oh dear yes, that is telling isn't it!
You know I went deeper down the 'no virus' hole. Still can't buy it completely as I still think an infectious germ better explains how some sicknesses have gone through my family. But it certainly has opened up my eyes to some real weaknesses in the science of virology. Thanks.
That's all it's about. Keeping the mind open and the heart free. x
Yep. That sums up our condition succinctly. Unfortunately, the perennial question is how to get there from here, and I'm pretty pessimistic about that.
I don't know but I think it helps to know and talk about where we are, who's pulling our strings and how we feel about that though as a good start! Then think about where we would like to go.
You obviously have a lot of research and homework to do. Man made climate change IS A LIE. A global boogie man created to cover up an agenda to control ALL human activity. Global warming was created to cover up the real agenda behind UN Agenda 21 because they had to have a global boogie man to scare people into compliance. When global warming was found to be a fraud they changed the boogie man to climate change and THEY now control the weather as well. You are very misinformed and very dangerous to your readers.
That easily dismissed claim is one of them. Global warming and climate change have been used interchangeably in the literature for decades. It is getting warmer in any case.
Do you think they are not clever enough to have created Agenda 21 to cover up the real agenda which is to make us use their products and make money even though they know climate change is real?
But before all the climate hysteria we were gobbling up their products, just as we continue to do.
The UN is now saying the earth is boiling. It’s not. The UK had a wet and cool July, Malta’s heat is now a cooler than usual August, Boston seems to be sliding into fall about 2 weeks early, and Antarctica is very, very cold right now, colder than in the recent 5-6 years. And Biden is ramping up to declare a climate emergency as well.
Who do you think is funding the UN and the Biden regime, if not the same people behind the Ukraine money-laundering and the corona scam?
Yes, we are warming slightly, but we’re coming out of a little ice age. Very few people die of climate issues. The number is way, way down from what it used to be. In the 80 we had 5.5 billion and now we have 8, with less people suffering from food insufficiency. The increase in crops is because it’s warmer.
The key point with these same people’s agendas is that they are using a multi+pronged approach. On the one hand, humanity’s fear of disease and death, then sympathy for the war-ravaged and their deaths, and now people’s fear of death by planet. They figure we’ve all got to be affected by one or the other.
Do you think they’re going to do anything to improve the situation even if as they say they shut down fossil fuels? Renewables will and can never happen with the technology we have now or the near future, barring some technological miracle. The planet will plunge into chaos, famine, and life in the mid-19th century.
The merit or otherwise of policies does not mean climate change is not happening nor that fossil fuels and animal ag are not causing it.
The global month average has never been so high in a global south winter. They have been getting hotter and hotter since the 80s. It's meaningless to say its cold in one place at one time.
"Very few people die of climate issues."
I suspect this is true today, though it hasn't always been true and it's not global warming that has led to sharp downturns in human surivability but its opposite: global cooling, brought on by solar minimums and corresponding super volcano activity, which as you mention took us into the Little Ice Age.
https://totheroot.substack.com/p/comets-volcanoes-earthquakes-and-8ff?r=1cz07o
Global warming has been happening for the last 300 years, which is why Greenland can grow cabbage again and why artic ice no longer blocks passage like it did from c. 1400-1700. Global warming predates the industrial revolution, but I for one am not rooting for the petro barons.
By the way, the Rockefeller Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers and other super wealthy trusts have been abandoning oil investments for "renewables", at least officially. Meanwhile, 99% of pharmaceuticals (a Rockefeller specialty) are made from petroleum. What gives?
My solutioin... abandon petroleum products, big pharma all the other chemical poisons, boycott plastic bags and other disposables, and find a way back into the arms of Mother Earth as quickly as we can.
You write "the vaccines were allegedly going to kill millions, though they didn’t." I'm confused by this. OpenVAERS reports that, as of July 28 of this year, the various "safe and effective" Covid vaccines are directly responsible for 35,726 deaths (https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality). And yet that's only the confirmed number, representing approx. 1-10% of actual deaths. (OpenVAERS actually explicitly states that the reported number from VAERS is only 1% of the actual number.) So, in fact, we're looking at a range of 300 k to 3 million vaccine-related deaths, and only in the U.S. and Europe. (I've heard as many as 600 k in the U.S. alone have died from the vaccines, with my father possibly having been one of them.) People are dropping like flies from the vaccines, all according to plan, and those killed would seem to be easily in the millions by now. Am I wrong?
so sorry about you father
No worries. Thank you.
I was meaning that the alleged plan was to depopulate, though even with vaccines the death rate has dropped since 2020 and the population has increase by a couple of million since 2019
OK. Indeed, census.gov for the US estimates a 0.6% increase in population (or 1.8 million) from April, 2020 to July, 2022. So I guess the rate of vaccine-related deaths is not keeping pace with population growth? But note that vaccine rollout didn't commence until Dec., 2021, so the numbers for that 1.67-year period would seem to be most significant, if I can find them. Unfortunately, census.gov has population data only through July 2022, and usafacts.org only through the end of 2021. Will research further.
Correction: Initial rollout of vaccines was in Dec., 2020.
Thank Michigan Rob. This is why I post on here. The vaccine deaths so far haven't taken us over an average dying off and rebirth in an ageing population. Americans and Europeans are still very long lived despite how unhealthy we generally are. Just the way pharma wants it. The vaccines haven't in any way led to a mass die of people is what I was trying to say, but of course thank you for pointing out they are killing millions. I have more accurate data on England and Wales (think I'll amend my post again) than the US, please let me know what you find.
You may wish to check out the Denis Rancourt study estimating deaths related to Covid-vaccine roll-out by studying all-cause mortality. The numbers are significant: 1 death per 800 doses or 1 per 400 people since on average people got around 2 shots each; extrapolated to 17 million vaccine-related deaths worldwide, and that was just the immediately visible results--not long term.
https://totheroot.substack.com/p/new-study-estimates-covid-vaccine?r=1cz07o
Of course, even 17 million is not a great number among 8 billion. (viz.: if you have a church, say, with 400 people, you might be left with only 399). But many more will be disabled or infirm, thus more reliant on Big Pharma unless they're rebels.
I have checked out this 17. million ‘extrapolatation’ here’s my reply.
I struggle with the 17 million figure and sanity. 17 million 'excess deaths' due to a new factor indicates the death rate would have to have risen over and above the 'normal' number of deaths by 0.07% each year, or 0.21% overall from 2021 to 2023.
It has clearly not done that. In E and W the death rate was 0.892% in 2019, 1.02% in 2020, 0.98% in 2021, 0.96% in 2022 and 0.95% in 2023 . This represents an increase of 0.19% overall over the very low death year of 2019, so 90% of the number of deaths required (and not age adjusted so in reality even less).
Of this 15.3 million ‘extra’ deaths, if E & W extrapolated to the world, only 5.5 billion were jabbed leaving us with 10 million deaths possibly from jabs.
We are asked to believe that ALL of these so called ‘extra’ 10 million (out of 183 million) deaths over three years (when compared to one unprecedentedly low death year) were caused by the jabs and not the on going effects of lockdowns, loneliness, ageing, junk food, lack of exercise, stress or flu jabs. This is nuts.
I also cover other of Rancourt’s un peer reviewed ‘papers’. here https://jowaller.substack.com/p/excess-mortality-what-does-it-show?utm_source=publication-search
Worldometers.info gives a live running tally of changes in world population (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/). And, btw, how this is even possible, I wonder. The previous two sites I checked derived their data from the UN and this one also (from the "2022 U.N. Revision"), so that may be a red flag. In addition, this site has a "Coronavirus" page that tallies "cases" and "deaths" from...wait for it...the "virus" (i.e., the same one never proven to exist.) So why the heck am I even looking at this site?! (I'm too deep in, so I'm going with it.)
Re: changes in world population, although the site shows the yearly percentage change in population growth rate as being DOWN during the years 2021-2023 (meaning a slower rate of growth), there has indeed been a continuing increase in global population (now up to 8.045 billion), with 2021 to 2022 seeing a 65 mill. increase, and 2022 to 2023 a 70 mill. increase. My guess is that vaccines, along with all the horror that went with draconian lockdowns and other totalitarian policies that destroyed people's psychological and physiological well-being, explain the slowed growth rate (from 0.98% in 2020 to 0.83% in 2022 and 0.88% thus far in 2023).
Hiya have you seen my look at England and Wales where I got the numbers from the ONS https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/deaths-england-and-wales-2020-2022
I think the slowed rate of growth is due to the Chinese not having babies apparently because they'd rather work hard, earn money and have a good standard of living. Emancipation and education of women slows the birth rate, so it will naturally slow as GDP in the developing world rises. But while India are still getting younger and younger the population will continue to rise even at a slower rate. Interesting.
In that previous article, I appreciate your reference to "care home murders" and "murder by midazolam." Sounds like a Broadway musical or Hitchcock thriller. Anyway, the slowed DEATH rate in the UK from 2020 to 2022, as you note, is surprising. I would have thought the exact opposite, although as you also note, obesity rates (in the UK) are up, cases of myocarditis (in France and Germany) are way up (and the US is witnessing innumerable cases of post-vaccine heart problems), and, of course, Pharma is making a "killing" (pun intended) in the 100s of billions. So you're suggesting the Covid scam is/was primarily one to DISABLE people so as to increase profits for the medical industry (i.e., income generation)?
Agreed. But I might argue that disability is only the INITIAL stage of the genocide, whereby victims are first divested of their savings to PAY for the exorbitant costs of disability treatments and healthcare. Then death arrives to meet the quotas of the psychopaths and their depopulation agenda (which has been in the works for decades). Also, another financial windfall comes with the death of elderly pensioners. (The state-run university where my dad was a prof is now happily off the clock in paying his pension.)
Yes I think the covid scam like all disease mongering is to disable and make more money out of the alleged prophylaxis and cure when they're is nothing wrong with us in the first place. It's money. yes income generation.I think hanging on to the belief that there's an evil conspiracy of people having death quotas, in the planning for ages, to depopulate us is blinding us to what is really going on. Yes the death rate slowing in 21 and 22 was a surprise to many as they had been misled by sensationalists in medial freedom to think that there were many more vaccine deaths happening than there was. Like they did to us with covid. Could this also have been a deliberate part of making us think there was an evil plan to cull us using vaccines, when there wasn't?
They want us fat sick and on drugs, still spending not dead. The annual 'flu' is indeed a cover to get rid of elderly care home residents to make way for the next lot. They are succeeding in keeping us alive for so long this is necessary. Pharma is indeed making a killing.
correction I didn't mean more vaccine deaths than there were, I meant more excess deaths ie over and above the 5 year average. Excess deaths were quoted relative to the number of deaths rather than relative to the size of the population as a whole I go into I here https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/my-final-stab-at-excess-deaths-before
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I was unsure about that bit . I'm going to take it out. Yes you right, they have killed millions as have other vaccines. but the main plan is income generation.
I was fine with the first paragraphs. But when you got to declaring climate change to be not a hoax, you lost me.
Not onIy vaccines, chemo, and drugs, but all of the pesticides, plastics, industrial waste from their industries cause the diseases, but also their junk food, corn/soy/wheat/cottonseed oil, etc. If anyone still doesn't know, here are a couple of vids on the matter: https://youtu.be/nM1U_0d6H4Q and https://www.bitchute.com/video/xAW4NsMd5iYh/ .
I've checked out some of your articles and I like your research. The 17 million figure was an extrapolation from a study on a number of southern hemisphere countries. It's been a while since I read Rancourt's work. I know he ajusted for population increase and SOME of his graphs look at specific age groups and/or gender, but I don't recall if any of them are "age standardized." Do you have an explanation for how he may have come up with the wrong figures? Thanks.
And I see you posting articles from Georgie&Donnie's Substack. Does that mean you are a co-author?
It's well known that the origins of the environmental movement began with concern that non-whites would overpopulate the world and take resources from whites who were seen as superior.
Thank you.